Faster hands.. Roy Jones or Ray Robinson??

Jones by a massive landslide, and hes way faster than Meldrick Taylor before anyone brings him up.

Its not just the speed that Jones throws his shots, its the fact he throws power shots like full blooded leading left hooks faster than a very fast jabber

 

P4P I'd say Jones rates higher on all those attributes except Chin

 

Jones was faster than anyone I've ever seen although Taylor comes close.Unlike Taylor,Jones actually put something behind his punches as well.

Robinson had very good speed particularly with his jab but he was a fair way behind the likes off the aforementioned and Ray Leonard,Hearns and even Terry Norris imo.

 

There isn't a chance in hell he rates higher for power.

 

I disagree. Ray's jab was lackluster in comparison to his combinations, which were among the best of all time in any regard, speed included, especially since we're giving points to those who commit to their punches.

 

Roy Jones, easily. However, Robinson's lack of footage at welterweight decreases the reliability of everyones opinion when comparing them both accurately. I suppose you can only 'call it as you see it'.

 

I'm convinced he does have equal power or maybe more. It's just that his style hampered him showing it on a regular basis. If Jones took risks more often he'd have demolished many more world class fighters. He freely admitted the safety of his opponent was always at the back of his mind when entering the ring. With that aside we can only go on the evidence presented to us. Jones was the first man to stop Sosa, Hill had never been stopped (I think) and he knocked out the durable Malinga.

Jones was a smart, unorthodox, defensive fighter first and foremost. A puncher second. Especially in his prime. He was a puncher during his early days. Hell, it took him a few rounds to finally lay out Pazienza.

 

His jab was in no way lackluster even compared to his combinations.It was fast,sharp and had definate snap on it.
I've heard people say it wasn't as quick literally as Ali's was at heavy but it was a more genuine jab than Ali's fast,almost flicking one so I rate it as better.
Robinson's combinations were very fast and hard and almost text book in their delivery and deserve to be rated amongst the best of all time but when talking pure speed he has to rated behind some other later fighters.Though I'll concede the quality of the film footage could have some bearing on this.

 

Not seen Jones at 160-168, look at the fashion he devasted his opposition, SRR wasnt doing that, actually for that matter even t 175 he was taking opponents out far faster than anyone

 

Where do you get off making such a simple statement as "SRR wasn't doing that"? He most certainly was, in devastating fashion, throughout the majority of his career, against better opposition and fighters thought to have been much more durable than Roy's opposition. Did Roy ever KO an ATG chin like Fullmer's with one punch? I think not.

 

Jones was a serious puncher when he let it all 'hang out'. Robinson fought over 200 fights and has more knockouts on his record. His career record certainly looks better when it comes to stoppages. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones taking out someone like Fullmer with one shot like Robinson did. Robinson's style helps things here, rather than having 'outright' rawer and more devastating power. IMO Robinson tended to fight with his feet planted firmly on the canvas with shifts of movement before planting again. He wasn't the fleet footed mover Jones was. And Jones was also a sneaky defensive counter-puncher who wasn't keen to stand in there for sustained periods.

 

From what I've seen of Robinson, which I must admit isn't very much, I'd say one of the things he really has over Roy, is that he was much more of a natural fighter, more of a 'killer'. Like Robbi said, Roy seemed to hold back in a lot of his fights, and at times it cost him, (like in the first Griffin fight.)

To answer the thread itself, I'd have to go with Roy.