Fat Dan says fight not happening because of AJ

I don't really care anymore, as long as Joshua is fighting top level heavyweights. Fury is there, Povetkin, Miller etc. Joshua is making like 15-20 million a fight, while Wilder made 2 mil once. As long as Joshua is clearing out the top level guys, that's cool. We already know Wilder will go back to facing chumps.

 

I thought this guy was meant to be a proper journalist? Throwing around terms like PEDvetkin makes him sound like a forum user.

 

It still hope it get made. Although I have my doubts if Hearn really want to make the fight. We will see. But if the $12.5 million was really the final offer then of course Hearn wasn't serious about making the fight. Realistically speaking everyone know Wilder and his team isn't taking a lower split than Parker did. So if the fight get made it will be at the 33% to 35% split range.

Hearn starting out offering $12.5 million flat fee and Wilder and his team started by asking for a 40% split. Let's see who is willing to move toward the 33% to 35% where the fight would get made at. But Hearn is the one with the farther distance to travel here. Wilder is closer to the 33% to 35% range where the fight will get made at. Any offer that isn't in that range is just a waste of everyone time.

I do believe if Hearn offered Wilder and his team at 33% to 35% split to fight in the UK Wilder and his team would take it today. If not then only then could we say Wilder and his team wasn't serious about the fight. A $12.5 million flat fee isn't a serious offer when Parker just got 33%. There is no justification for Wilder to get a lesser offer than Parker. And no Joshua having one more belt now isn't a good enough reason.

 

Hate Fat Dan, but he's right. And he was smart to include Floyd's duck job of Pacquiao.

 

So where's Wilder's counter offer. It was supposed to be on the table last Friday.

 

Parker didn't get 33% he got nowhere near that. He got about 6mill according to Hearn which would equate to 20-25% max.

They just used that figure to shame Joe in to fighting for a low ball figure and they look like the guys making concessions.

Ffs Joe was a champ in his own right he should have got more than a mandatory.
Hearn and AJ are laughing all the way to the bank. Some how Hearn was dumb enough to admit they low balled Joe but the average AJ ball licker loves the fact that they low ball fighters and try their hardest not to take real fights.

 

Fat Dan telling people what they don't want to hear.

 

I guess the justification would be that just because you overpaid before, doesn't mean you overpay again? i agree with you btw, the fight gets made at 33-35%

I think this offer has been all about positioning. The offer isn't there to be accepted, Like rafael says, Hearn knows Wilder's team can't accept it and retain their own reputations as smart dealmakers. Nevertheless I think it achieves some goals for Hearn:

It's setting a baseline of how much they think wilder is actually worth. They think he's overvaluing himself and this makes it explicit. Instead of discussing moves down from 50/50 to 60/40 it moves to 25-35.

Once rejected, it's there to establish that all the talk about money not being the issue is rubbish and at Wilder's rhetoric about unifying is just that.

It's making the a side status apparent. They are the ones making the offers, they can offer what to some will seem a good deal (5 times his biggest purse).

Most of all, it now gives their opponents something that they can present as a win. They can push back and demand a rev share, which Hearn can concede on, but at a lower level than may previously have been the case.

 

Pretty misinformed and biased article from Fat Dan to be honest.

He says it's a take it or leave it deal, when Hearn and even Finkel have said that isn't the case. Hearn made the offer and simply had 10 days to respond which is understandable as they are on a tight schedule with the Povetkin mandatory having to be finalised pretty soon if they don't come to terms.

Also said Wilder was willing to travel because he agreed to fight Povetkin in Russia. Now I believe Wilder is willing to travel he fought Audley in the UK. But Fat Dan completely ignored the fact that the Povetkin fight was a mandatory, they didn't agree terms and Wilder was forced to go to Russia because they lost the bid.

Anyone not knowing the details and reading that article will not have a well informed view of what's actually going on.

 

Exactly. His been offered way more than Parker got.

 

Fat Dan probably is a forum troll.

 

If Dan said it then it must be true, we all love Dan.

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Joshua isn't going to be dictated to by a guy with little drawing power who took as few risks as possible coming up when he can cash in big paydays against other fighters.