Fat Dan says fight not happening because of AJ

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  1. mafioso

    mafioso Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this fight doesnt generate more than 50 million so 12,5M is a 25% offer its a decent offer deontay should take it if he doesnt get any result in negotiation to increase that offer
     
  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep Joshua has shown a willingness to consistently try to fight the best Wilder on the other hand...
     
  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting how quick people are to forget that.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Eh. I don't know. Seems like it, but who knows? And is he wrong? Is it unforgivable? I don't know.

    But Dan Raf is known to have favorites and let it cloud his writing. I will say that.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Lets not get too carried away. Only literally in the past 13 months.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still a heck of a lot of money though,Joshua being a frickin Freemason(he’s forever flashing the pyramid sign) has sold his soul to the devil and as such just like Floyd another mason gets the silly money.Parker I’m sure was intelligent enough to see that it’s irrelevant what the A side Freemason gets and to earn £6mill in one nigh5 is beyond his wildest dreams.

    Wilder is well within his rights to hold out for a better deal but at the same time if that offer is genuine and it’s $12mill then again given what Wilder is used to earning regardless of what AJs getting he’d be mad to risk not ever getting the fight.
     
  7. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    "Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million."

    When that happened there were a bunch of complete morons on here saying that this was a clear sign manny/Arum were ducking FlIVd which was laughable. Very few knowledgeable people on here knew that was a terrible offer and manny would be nuts to accept it. I was one of the few. We were right and the morons were wrong. This situation is pretty much the same. By signing for a flat fee DW would be leaving twice that on the table.
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, he definitely comes across as a forum troll when he does that type of stuff. It baffles me. It's not like he has a comedic edge to ANYTHING he does in his presentations, so you think he'd take a more professional approach. Seems rather unbecoming of someone with his status at a place like ESPN.
     
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  9. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua has always looked to consistently improve his opposition...

    Cornish - Undefeated British level
    Whyte - Undefeated British level (Now WBC rank 1)
    Martin - Undefeated IBF belt holder
    Breazeale - Undefeated US prospect (Now WBC rank 2)
    Molina - Tune up (Klitschko fight already signed)
    Klitschko - ATG, for unified HW champ
    Pulev - IBF Mandatory (pulled out, replaced by Takam)
    Parker - Undefeated World champion.



    Sure, there's no Tyson, Holyfield or Lewis but he's fought the best he could.....often earlier than he should.
    e.g. he wasn't ready for klitschko.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How much do Joshua fights generate in the UK?

    Add $10 million to that for every 100,000 PPV buys there are in the U.S.

    I think they surpass $50 million pretty damn quick.
     
  11. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Also comparing Pacquiao to Wilder is laughable.

    Pacquiao was a huge draw.

    This is more like Mayweather v Berto than Pacquiao.
     
  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Because of Joshua then?

    Wilder hasn't been able to sell PPV against anyone.....
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd-Berto sold 400,000 PPVs in the U.S. If Wilder-Joshua sold 400,000 in the U.S., that would mean an additional $40 million added to whatever the fight sells on PPV in the UK.

    Have we passed $50 million yet?
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neither has Joshua, in the U.S.

    In the U.S., Wilder drew nearly 2 million viewers on Showtime against Ortiz. Joshua-Parker drew 450,000 on Showtime.

    Showtime should float the idea that Joshua can keep all the UK PPV and Wilder can keep all the US PPV and see how that offer flies.

    Something tells me Eddie won't go for that.

    When he offers Wilder a flat fee, that means Eddie wants ALL THE PPV.
     
  15. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You really don't get it do you?

    Joshua v Wilder is Mayweather v Berto in the sense that the home fighter is the A side, and the B side cannot generate PPV.

    Pacquiao/Mayweather = Joshua
    Berto = Wilder