Fat Dan says fight not happening because of AJ

Wilder fight's prime time lol.

Joshua holds the record for a non-prime time Showtime fight.

 

This is like winning the special olympics. If this is true it's an awfully low bar to pass.

 

No. You don't get it.

Berto didn't average three times as many viewers as Pacquiao or Mayweather on the same network.

Between Joshua and Wilder, Wilder is the draw in the U.S.

In the U.S., Wilder-Ortiz was viewed by FOUR times as many people as Joshua-Parker.
In the U.S., Wilder-Washington drew THREE TIMES as many viewers as Joshua-Wlad.
In the U.S., Wilder-Stiverne II drew THREE TIMES as many viewers as Joshua-Takam.

Berto never outdrew Floyd or Manny ANYWHERE.

Wilder AND Joshua have never sold a PPV in the U.S. Eddie Hearn touts Joshua's ability to sell in the UK. And that's great. But US PPV can generate the same money as UK PPVs and the US PPVs only have to sell a third as many, because they charge so much more in the U.S.

I LOVE that Wilder's fights haven't been on PPV. Millions of people have gotten to see him.

That was the idea. To expose to him a wider audience.

That's certainly about to come to an end. But it's been fun.

 

Key line here.

"Wilder AND Joshua have never sold a PPV in the U.S."

You can't claim you can sell 100k PPV if you've never sold 1.

 

Haymon gonna work on getting a liscence for event promotions and off AJ 12 FLAT or 35%

 

Yeah, I'm sure no one would buy it. Not a single solitary person.

Two undefeated young heavyweights in the primes for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world.

The most talked about heavyweight fight in the U.S. in 15 years.

NO takers.

Did you actually just type that?

That's why Hearn wants Wilder to take a flat fee. Because there is "NO" money to be made in the US for this fight. Zero. Not a single buck.

Jesus Christ.

 

There is no evidence to suggest that this does well on PPV in the US.....

You're just guessing.

If it does so well.....Why has finkle already conceded the fight is likely to take place in the UK?

 

You do realize most major sports in the U.S. are held during the day because that's when they generate the greatest ratings.

The NFL. College Football. MLB. NHL. The highest rated NFL GAMES Of the WEEK start at 4:30 p.m. eastern time in the U.S. The same time Joshua's "non-prime time" fights air.

Even the Super Bowl begins in the AFTERNOON throughout most of the country. Not at 10 or 11 p.m. at night, like Wilder's fights do.

You also realize that the highest rated PBC fight was an Errol Spence fight that drew 4 million plus viewers on an afternoon telecast. Not prime time.

And you do realize that even though Joshua's fights have aired live at the same time most other sports generate their highest ratings in the U.S., he draws a fraction of the people Wilder draws?

You know that, right?

 

I could have 200 people walk into my shop....but if they're not willing to buy anything what do I gain?

Wilder has never been on PPV....

Suggesting he does 500k against Joshua, also concedes the argument that Joshua is therefore the draw.

 

Yeah, I'm just guessing, based on a 30-year history of heavyweight championship PPVs in the United States.

And they'll hold in the UK because they can draw more fans to the arena there, and also sell PPVs in both countries.

If it starts at 4 p.m. in the U.S. and 10 p.m. in the UK, you maximize your audience. If you hold it at 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. in the U.S. and televise it at 4 a.m. or 5 a.m. in the UK, YOU DON'T.

It's not brain surgery.

 

Wilder v 40 opponents = No PPV

Wilder v Joshua = 500k PPV


You're arguing against your own 'Wilder is the bigger draw in the US' theory.

 

So you're finally admitting defeat? Thank christ.....

Joshua becomes the first fighter to generate US PPV in Europe?

 

Joshua can go and fight top level fighters, he will win and come out with 15/20mil. Wilder will go back to fighting bums and earning 1/1.5mil. He’s going to end up regretting not taking the flat fee or at least the Whyte fight! DOUBLE + anything he’s ever earned before! It’s ludicrous.

 

Good post. Eh. I guess when I see them listed out, plus a Takam, I mean, pretty good. Still no murderers row as some bill it. It's better than what anyone around him has done in that time frame but even in knowing the quality of his opposition you wouldn't think that adds up to THE top man of a division. Klitschko is a great win no question. Whyte, Martin, Brezeale, and Takam do add up respectably as supporting wins. I'm not afraid to say it, I scored his fight with Parker a draw. So there's that. But he did pick up the W, so there's also that. Haha. Good response though, respect.

 

No, it doesn't. Because ALL of Joshua's title fights have been televised in the U.S. and NONE of them have been on PPV in the U.S. either.

What it recognizes is that Wilder and Joshua TOGETHER for the undisputed title makes a PPV worthy fight to U.S. fans.

They've seen both now.

That's THE FIGHT fans here want.