Fat Dan says fight not happening because of AJ

Pacquiao was already making $25-$30M dollars a fight YEARS before fighting Floyd. $40M dollars flat fee was relatively not much higher than that. If Wilder's biggest purse has been $2.5M, then $12.5M is 5 times that. You can't compare the two situations.

If Floyd had offered Pac $100M flat fee and Pac turned it down then I'm sure everyone would say Pac was crazy, including myself. Although with pride between those two and the feud between Top Rank and Floyd I wouldn't be surprised if even $100M didn't go through.

Joshua has already gone on record saying that he will take the fight for a $50M flat fee, which is maybe just over double his highest payday.

Just looking at what would be fair between Joshua and Wilder you'd think they should probably split the pot 2/3 1/3 and be done with it.

 

A lot of people jumping to a lot of conclusions.

The Joshua-Wilder negotiating isn't done with yet.

 

Is this a British thing or something? Seriously. Or are all of you just parroting what you heard Eddie Hearn say?

You know, in many States in the U.S., it's illegal to ask someone what they made in their last job. The reason is if someone is UNDERPAID, they don't go on being UNDERPAID forever because their new salaries aren't always based on their LAST JOB. Your salary is based on the importance of the job and the salaries of your peers in the same role.

George Foreman got like $875,000 to fight Ken Norton and in his next fight he got $5 million to fight Ali. Ali made $2.5 million in his previous fight. He got $5 million, too. They split the purse. They didn't say, well, George, you only made $875,000 last time, so you should be happy with $1.7 million, because that's double your previous high. The split it because TOGETHER they made the biggest fight.

When Ali and Frazier first fought, I think Joe's previous high purse was $200,000 against Ellis. He got $2.5 million to fight Ali. Ali got the same. Because TOGETHER they made the BIGGEST FIGHT.

Wilder-Joshua opens the door to the U.S. PPV market. It's a bigger money fight. Because you can sell PPVs in both countries, and in the U.S., Wilder draws more television viewers than Joshua.

A LOT more.

 

How can the one side that have made an offer be the side accused of a duck???

Where’s the counter offer at least?

 

Who else could he fight though?

He wants the final belt from Wilder...if he didn't why would he collect the rest?

He's been begging fury to return, and called him out after beating Klitschko.

He and Hearn know that Povetkin will be called mandatory, hence he was on Joshua's last card to hype him up a bit in the UK.

There's literally no-one else who could have fought, besides Ortiz, which becomes redundant now Wilder has fought him.


5 undefeated opponents in 8 fights....including 3 world title fights, with 2 being unifications.

 

US population: 325million
U.K. population: 65 million.

Of course there’s going to be more viewers when he’s fighting prime time in the US as opposed to AJ’s fights at lunch time.

If AJ fought Miller in NYC or Vegas he would sell more tickets than Wilder ever has and have more viewers.

They had to give tickets away for Wilders last fight! And it was his biggest one yet!

 

No I'm not. The television ratings back up the fact that Wilder is the bigger television draw in the U.S.

Wilder and Joshua fight on the same network. They often fight weeks apart. Wilder's ratings blow Joshua's out of the water, and Joshua is supposedly fighting superior men and Wilder is supposedly fighting nobodies. And Wilder outdraws Joshua often 3-1.

 

Wilder v Ortiz - 1.1 million viewers (In the US)

Klitschko v Jennings - 1.7 million viewers (In the US)

Joshua v Klischko - 1.3 million viewers (In the UK - 2 US networks)


So Wilder cannot make PPV in his home country?

Yet Joshua can generate PPV, and have HBO/Showtime sharing rights for a fight involving no US boxer for the first time in the sports history?

 

What?

There are certainly more people at home on a Saturday afternoon at 5 p.m. (when Joshua's fights air) then there are on a Saturday night at 10 p.m. (when Wilder's fights air.)

That's why NO OTHER SPORT in the U.S. starts at 10 p.m. at night.

Despite that, Wilder's last fight was viewed by nearly 2 million people in the U.S. Joshua's last fight, on the same network, for THREE TITLES, was viewed by 400,000.

 

Wilder-Ortiz peaked at 1.8 million views. (When people were actually watching the main event and not the dismal undercard.)

Joshua-Klitschko drew fewer even though it was shown on TWO NETWORKS at the same time (showtime and HBO -- AND THEY ONLY SHOWED THE MAIN EVENT) as well as in the UK?

Thanks for proving my point.

 

Wilder v Ortiz was 1.1 mil on average with a 1.2 mil peak....

Where you get 2 million from? lol.


Joshua v Klitschko did 10 million at 11pm in Germany.....

 

1.2 mil!

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HBO had rights to Wlad. Showtime had rights to Joshua. Every other time there is a battle to see who televises. This time, neither bothered because they just had to buy the transmission, they didn't have to send a crew to broadcast the fight.

 

Joshua v Klitschko....

1.3 million US (2 networks)
10 million Germany (11pm)
800,000 Poland (11pm)

Most importantly - 1.5-2 million buys in UK


Wilder v Ortiz

1.2 million US

 

That's great. How many viewers in Germany did Joshua-Takam do?