Faultier stoppage: Joshua's TKO over Takam or Wilder's TKO over Duhaupas?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Luis Fernando, Sep 18, 2018.


Which stoppage was faultier?

  1. Anthony Joshua's premature stoppage over Carlos Takam

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  2. Deontay Wilder's premature stoppage over Johann Duhaupas

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  1. BCS8

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    I really don't care.
     
  2. Holler

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    I think Takam is almost too brave/tough for his own good but even bearing that in mind and the fact Joshua had won evry round and tee'ed off on him at will I do think the stoppage in that fight was soft. It wasn't one way traffic and AJ had shown signs of gassing out himself so I think the criticism of the referee is at least possibly justified.

    Duhaupaus, another tough guy who takes too much punishment, didn't look to be throwing anything back. I don't think boxing will long survive these days if we have heavyweights teeing off on peoples heads for multiple shots without reply.

    So of the two I think Takam's was the worse stoppage.
     
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  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Judges had it that way because they were favoring the hometown fighter = Wilder. In reality, that fight was dead even.

    Wilder was landing many many punches on the arm of Duhaupas. And pro boxing isn't based on quantity of punches landed alone. Quality of punches has a precedence over quantity in the pros.

    Every punch Duhaupas landed, inflicted more damage on Wilder than the 3 or 4 punches Wilder landed (because Duhaupas proved to be the more powerful puncher in that fight).

    Duhaupas had Wilder running scared for the whole fight = controlled ring generalship.

    The fact that the hometown judges had it that wide, doesn't mean they are correct. Judges have been exposed more than once, especially hometown judges favoring the home fighter of being bias.
     
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  4. Luis Fernando

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    1) Joshua dropped Takam once. Wilder couldn't even drop Duhaupas once.

    2) Joshua was barely at all damaged from any legal punches from Takam. Whilst Wilder had a black eye caused by getting hit from Duhaupas.

    3) Duhaupas won multiple rounds against Wilder and the fight was close to, if not dead even at the time of the premature stoppage. Whilst Joshua was way ahead against Takam.

    So in what Universe was Joshua's stoppage over Takam worse?
     
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  5. Holler

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    Valid points, however I think you also need to compare the actual moment the stoppage took place in each fight as well as the context of what had gone before. Duhaupas at the moment of the stoppage appears far more vulnerable than Takam was.
     
  6. Okin129

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    Dead even ? People need to get banned for shitty delusional opinions and you're one of them.
     
  7. OpinionOfACasual

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    Takam.....

    But the way people go on about it was stopped early because Joshua was going to get KOd is funny.


    Takam isn't even throwing ffs. Another fight since Klitschko where Joshua is carrying power and athleticism into the later rounds.
     
  8. Aydamn

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    Erm not when the premise of your question is based purely on opinion...and not logic.

    This whole thread is subjective, you want objectivity try starting a thread on Maths.
     
  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So far, you've yet to prove you're opinion is superior to mine. Ad Hominem attacks only make your points appear inferior. Ad Hominem attacks warrants greater reason for banning for posters like you.

    I've utterly debunked each and every one of your point. So now you have to resort to personal attacks because you are incapable of addressing my points in a logical manner.

    FACT is, the fight was DEAD EVEN for reasons stated. Both inflicted damage on each other and neither guy TOTALLY dominated for the fight to be considered one-sided or a beat down by either guy.
     
  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I just don't see it that way!

    Duhaupas made Wilder miss his last 2 punches before the premature stoppage. Takam also made Joshua miss his last 2 punches.

    And

    Duhaupas, nor Takam were throwing any punches when they were both stopped.

    So I'd like to know where this 'Duhaupas was more vulnerable' idea coming from.
     
  11. Holler

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    It's coming from my subjective viewing of the two respective stoppages.
     
  12. Aydamn

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    You know what is really hilarious, this is two times Luis has started a thread to establish his opinion using a Poll only to have the Poll go completely against him :D :D

    Remember that Luis Ortis stylistically wrong thread? like 31-1 votes, and here it's 11-0.

    It's just too funny, I'm sorry for being immature.
     
  13. Luis Fernando

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    My points are based on logic. Maths isn't the only subject where objectivity and logic exist.

    I don't need math to deduce that a guy (Duhaupas) who gave his opponent a black eye and damaged his opponent more (Wilder), was in better condition during his fight than another boxer (Takam) who barely inflicted any damage on his opponent (Joshua).
     
  14. Luis Fernando

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    None of this CHANGES the fact that Duhaupas gave Wilder a black eye with legal punches and suffered 0 knockdowns.

    Meanwhile,

    Takam suffered a knockdown against Joshua and failed to inflict any damage on Joshua with legal punches.

    Or

    Takam was at a worse state against Joshua when the fight was stopped, than Duhaupas was against Wilder when their fight was stopped.

    OPINIONS don't change facts! And foolish opinions will only expose fooling individuals.
     
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  15. Okin129

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    You debunked nothing, nobody agrees with you that this was an even fight, you have to be legally blind to see anything else than a dominant performance from Wilder, seriously i don't even know if you're trolling, i hope you
    do.
     
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