Fedor has a huge problem with his striking imo

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  1. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Best boxer in the world as in stick another boxer in a ring with Vitali currently and he would win.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Exactly. By and large, the best heavyweight in the world is the best boxer.

    Thanks for understanding me. Unlike some.
     
  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Didnt think it was hard to understand you tbh.

    Dumb noobs. :yep
     
  4. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I'm saying there is no such thing as terrible technique; technique that wins is by definition good, and technique that doesn't is by definition bad.

    Thats all there is to it; there is no technique that is inherently good or bad, only techniques that win and lose, Vitalis wins, therefore it is good technique.

    This is why "good" technique changes, because one person starts using a different technique and beating those with what is currently considered "good"; obviously not everybody using an unorthodox technique changes the definition of good, but if enough guys do it then what is considered good.

    Also what work for one guys body just doesn't for the other. Tyson could never box like Ali and vice versa, their styles were totally different; neither was bad.

    When Fosbury started jumping over the bar headfirst, people thought he was an idiot who didn't know what he was doing. When Lance Armstrong used a lower gear people thought he would never last, technique changes; so sticking to one style dogmatically is stupid, if something works, it is good, end of discussion.
     
  5. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    achilles said, "i loze
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    wow that waz unexpected

    well then sorry for bein such a **** head debatin that with you when i didnt need to be

    but thatz not personal and only to do with me bein a **** head

    by the way, i used to box in the amaturz (thuz me brain damagez) until i got a few too many bad precussionz,

    however, i did have pretty good technique with a compact quick straight jab, textbook left hook and my best punch which i alwayz remember my coach tellin me waz PICTURE PERFECT and got me plenty of knockoutz which waz a compact right cross/straight right (whateva) and i swear to god when i first saw fedor fight i thought hiz striking techniquez looked like complete ****

    it waznt until i started thinkin about the guy that gave me my worst concussion and basically made me quit boxin competitively that i remembered he went alot farther then i did and my coach waz alwayz saying how terrible hiz technique waz compared to mine
     
  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    That isn't true as technique isn't always necessarily winning. Versus Rogers, Sylvia, Arlovski etc I'd put it more down to power which is intangiables.

    Tyson and Ali's core style were composed of many different things i.e. proportioning. However aside from their core style they must be versatile. Neither of them really were and thus were limited to one style.

    Technique does change as man trys to find the most efficent and effective technique. There are no excuses for Fedors technique though. If I could be on balance, there is no reason I would want to be off balance unless I had not been taught or I don't employ proper technique.
     
  7. Dubhthaigh

    Dubhthaigh New Member Full Member

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    arlovski was out striking him before he got wild with a stupid knee and got sparked. not long before someone as strong with better stand up sparks him
     
  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Issue with that is the whole great chin buisness. Nobody is "sparking" Fedor not now not ever.
     
  9. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    actually once again your incorrect

    a man that can fight well off balance is deadly

    especially when he can reset himself so quickly and reachieve balance

    well hiz opponentz are achieving balance fedor takez that split second to blast them off balance and take them out

    watch the videoz itz hiz thing

    confuseus say man that goes to bed with hungry ****** wakez up with no bannana
     
  10. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anybody can be knocked out, it is human anatomy. Fedor has shown a sturdy, maybe not iron, but sturdy, chin; but he can be knocked out.

    Every human ever born or yet to be born can be knocked out.

    I do realize you didn't mean it literally, its just a pet peeve when people say "so and so can't get KO'd."
     
  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was defending Vitali's technique, not Fedors; Vitali is probably the best boxer in the world right now, Fedor is not the best striker in MMA right now, he doesn't even always get the better of the striking in all of his MMA matches (well he used to not always).

    What in particluar do you take issue with Vitali's technique?

    Vitali has repeatedly shown that his way of boxing is better than everybody he has ever faced short of Lennox Lewis, who I would say had better technique.

    If you are repeatedly beating the best opponents at a sport using your technique, you have the best technique in the sport, or at least the best technique for you.

    Vitali changing his technique at this point would only make him worse in my view.