"Fedor on the Milk Carton" by Jake Rossen

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  1. snakerattle79

    snakerattle79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Fedor-on-the-Milk-Carton-28946

    by Jake Rossen (jrossen@sherdog.com)
    Shitdog Writer

    Georges St. Pierre fought for a total of 50 minutes in 2010. Anderson Silva fought for nearly as long. Cole Konrad: nearly 70. LeBron James played for upwards of 40 minutes in dozens of games.

    Fedor Emelianenko’s total ring time this year: 69 seconds.

    This isn’t going to be a blame game. M-1, Emelianenko’s management, obviously has intentions to market their fighter for as much as they can for as long as they can, and that involves protracted negotiations with Showtime/Strikeforce. There’s nothing inherently evil about it: fighters are commodities and the fight business doesn’t promise fairness.

    M-1’s shelving of Fedor is frustrating for reasons extending beyond financial demands or their sense of worth. It’s provocative because it completely ignores his mortality. Worse, it ignores his place in the sport.

    Emelianenko turned 34 in September, hardly Ernest Borgnine territory but a pretty important number for a man who has fought professionally in the most physically taxing athletic event available for over ten years. Neurologically and orthopedically, MMA fighters suffer the damage equivalent of a car accident far more often than NASCAR drivers.

    In ring years, Fedor is getting old.

    MMA is not a sport for drifters. Herschel Walker will have gone a year between fights; Royce Gracie might fight in the summer after a four-year absence; Brandon Vera sat out for over a year while his contract was fought over and never looked the same. It’s a casual attitude for something that reduces you to a primal state, and the results are usually less than impressive. Layoffs kill results and relaxation shouldn’t be part of the curriculum. Either you’re on the circuit or you’re not. By becoming an inaction figure, Emelianenko is altering what he’ll be able to accomplish for the duration of his career.

    The slide in skill can be progressive, or it can be sudden. One minute Matt Hughes looks like the most dominant fighter in the welterweight division, and in the next he’s been throttled by St. Pierre and Alves. Chuck Liddell looked ferocious until Quinton Jackson pulled his plug. These are abrupt changes.

    We don’t know if Emelianenko experienced that shift during the Fabricio Werdum fight, or if he’s got more in him. Maybe 2010 was his body’s last competitive year; maybe he could’ve taken care of business against Werdum or Alistair Overeem. But because of posturing, there is now a ten-month gap (minimum) for a celebrated fighter than he can never earn back.

    I would argue that promoters and management never take a relaxed-state attitude toward contract negotiations. Layoffs cheat the fighter out of opportunities to perform with a capable body and cheat fans the chance to see them hash it out among their contemporaries.
     
  2. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Frustrating as hell to see the cream of MMA so MIA
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    fighters don't get paid by the minute.
     
  4. Big T

    Big T Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ya to make Jake happy, he should be inn the UFC and make as little money as he can. Ya know that the UFC pays thier fighter spit unless you are Brock
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Recently, it is no secret that I am having Fedor withdrawal symptoms. I've started backtracking through his fights. I'm starting from his most recent, I am now up to Mark Coleman.
     
  6. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fedor is retired as far as i'm concerned...(and if he isn't...it looks like it)
     
  7. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

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  8. Fedor Emelianenko
    Fights: 35
    Age: 34
    Average: 1.03


    Anderson Silva
    Fights: 31
    Age: 35
    Average: 0.88

    Georges St-Pierre
    Fights: 23
    Age: 29
    Average: 0.79


    Also unlike Anderson "dancing" Silvia and Georges "lie on you"-Pierre, Fedor "the last emperor" Emelianenko actually goes out there trying to knock out guys and or submit them. Fedor has been on the top for longer, fought better fighters, fought champions in many different disciplines, fought champions from different promotions and have ruled.

    GSP and Anderson should really lift their game up. This isn’t going to be a blame game. UFC, Anderson and GSP's management, obviously has intentions of proteting its fighters from champions from other promotions.

    UFC’s shelving of Anderson and GSP from fighting other top champions is frustrating for reasons extending beyond financial demands or protecting UFC fighter. It’s provocative because it completely ignores their mortality. Worse, it ignores Anderson and GSP's place in the sport.
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    i hear you monaco and i love it bro, but do you honestly feel Fedor would have skimmed over the kinda oppositionthat St Pierre's had to deal with?
     
  10. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, GSP laid on Koscheck so much that he broke his orbital bone which required surgery, which had to be postponed because he had to wait 3-4 days just for the swelling to go down and that alone will put him out of training for more then a few months.

    I think you're getting something confused, which is kind of silly, quite frankly.

    No one is arguing that Fedor hasn't fought a good amount in his whole career. Who the hell is saying that? The knock is currently that he is not fighting a lot as of late.

    Kind of ridiculous that you can't distinguish that difference.

    Also, GSP has faced the toughest competition out of any champion in MMA history. His resume with the guys he's fought has been absurd. Jon Fitch, B.J. Penn and Thiago Alves...all of which were on the "Pound for Pound" best fighters list and he completely destroyed them, while the damage to himself has been minimal at worst.

    So yes, GSP really needs to step it up. He needs to start fighting 2 or 3 guys at once....what are you, insane?
     
  11. Anderson when he fought in Pride lost several times, GSP didnt have to face as many champions from different promotions, fight in as many promotions, or fight fighters from many different countries as Fedor. GSP especially has only really fought highly rated []UFC[/b] fighters. The media being as biased as it is tend to promote and pick UFC fighters i.e. Lesnar and Carwin over far better, more well rounded, and more experienced fighters from outside the promotion. So GSP can challenge as many UFC champions as he wants, he will NEVER come close to what Fedor has accomplished.
     

  12. Fedor would have slaughtered, seriously bro SLAUGHTERED fighters if he fought the same caliber fighters as GSP. Instead of fighting guys 40lbs or more heavier than himself, Fedor would be fighting guys just a tiny shade lighter or heavier. Instead of fighting the best from promotions from around the world, Fedor would only be fighting fighters in one promotion. Finally, instead of having to finish off guys with a slick submission or a punishing knockout, Fedor could just take his opponents down and lie there for the whole fight knowing that UFC judges will always decide for the current/popular champ.
     

  13. From his last 5 fights, GSP has gone to decision on 4 of them. If he wasnt fighting scared, playing it safe, or deficient in some ways then he wouldnt be the Mr. DECISION man (either that or the "I fell asleep on top of you" man)
     
  14. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pathetic.
     
  15. Lame.