Fedor Vs Prime Tyson

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Fedor is a great MMA Fighter, but there's still rules in the octagon, there ain't no rules on the street.

    A prime Tyson in a street fight would be a daunting task to put it mildy. He is a faster than Fedor, he punches twice as hard as fedor, and he is built like a brick **** house.

    I don't know about Fedor, but I would run.
     
  2. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    skills is very much overrated in MMA. these guys still greatly rely on strength and opportunity to hit a big strike. and this is very likely because defense against strikes isn't a big priority in MMA or at least not the sole priority with defense against take-downs still pre-occupying the fighters' minds.

    that is why upsets are very common. there is always a changing of the guard going on, and new-comers with enough balls beating an experienced fighter is very likely. the so-called elites with a few exceptions have a lot of losses. that's because their skills isn't as overwhelming to a man who just fights and rely on his instincts to pound an opponent. if skills is overrated in MMA, then its even more in an actual street fight. usually the one with the better brute strength and speed and menacing attitude wins. don't underestimate a naturally-gifted striker like tyson in this fight.
     
  3. ROUND1

    ROUND1 My style is Impetuous! Full Member

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    if he comes in trying to clinch he might find himself on the end of a brutal uppercut..his best bet is coming in for a double leg takedown :D
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Bingo. I'd take a toughman competitor over most of those glass-jawed jokes. :nod
     
  5. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactly..I said before in a streetfight you have to keep it real basic an people laughed..Martial arts are great.Streetfighting is a whole different ball game..You usually have to be tough as hell..take a good shot n use common sense
     
  6. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fedor would beat the brakes off me..But if i had tysons traits.i would pull something unpredictable an try to lock it up with fedor real fast an wing a couple.In alley scraps most get knocked cold trying to get creative
     
  7. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    No, the guy in my avatar is the greatest. Those russians have something going about that.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  9. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are saying "this is why upsets are common".

    We are talking about Fedor. The GOAT of MMA and incomparable to any other past or present mma fighter.
     
  10. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A few people say "Tyson would probably kill him .."

    Well, Tyson was bad and he wanted to eat your children and so on. Fact is that Tyson is pretty much just a basket case of a lost childhood and not enough intelligence to compute his troubles. Meanwhile Fedor is a real case of calculated bad-ass. Now he doesn't have the mouth, but he has the action.

    I think the Emileanenkos might have been serial killers if they couldn't fight. Who knows. Alexander ruled the prison he was in ruthlessly.

    Tyson was bad - mostly because he heard voices and what not - Fedor much badder because he would just calmly separate Tyson's head from his neck. In a real street fight best out of 100 Fedor wins 1-0 and Tysons torso is found in a Russian river with no hands and no head.

    For some reason, african-americans have subdued white americans and white americans have bought into it. This is why black americans are tougher than white americans. Or is it because blacks are tougher than whites? No. Look at boxing - ruled by Klitschos, Ibragimov etc. Look at wrestling - dominated by Mahkov. Look at mma - ruled by Fedor etc. and so on. It is in white americans' heads. IF africanamerican were women we could say that white americans are pussywhipped...

    Tyson was a great boxer and one of perhaps 5 boxers all time (Ali, Naseem, Tyson, RJJ and SRL) that I always looked forward to see fight no matter who the opponent was. Any other fighter I would only see if the opposition was worth is. BUT - Fedor would kill him in a streetfight. He would break his arm and then kill him. Or he would just strangle him. Fedor is not an American de-masculinized white boy - and he does not have the same inferiority complex.
     
  11. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    and we are also talking about tyson. he might not be the most skilled but one of the best and baddest heavyweights in history. this is street fight, he isn't as skilled as ali or johnson but he dkues hard in a streetfight. fedor isn't just fighting some black bouncer in some club. he's fighting an offensively monstrous puncher here. fedor may outnumber tyson in skills and tyson would look one-dimensional but that dimension is very effective. and still i maintain skills is very overrated for MMA fighters even for fedor. it would be even more so in a streetfight.

    now why do you have to insert that race black versus white thing here. last time you posted, you were underestimating the latinos and asians while praising the whites and blacks. you're always off-tangent.
     
  12. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well discount the skills of mma and he is a sambo and judo world champion and he used to be in the russian army so there are a few other tools he has which go above him just being an mma fighter.
     
  13. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, he is three time Sambo world champion and Sambo is far closer to streetfight than boxing is. He has fought and killed bears and I think he would calmly kill Tyson.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevanc...aum_fedor-emelianenko-vs-gary-goodridge_sport

    Now goodridge is not Tyson, but Fedor would win in whatever way it takes. For example Sylvia has been hit by many many people and he was almost crying in the press conference after the fight saying "I have never been hit that hard.. Fedor is not human.." Fedor has some Marciano stuff going there. However, as a boxing fan first (and mma second) I do not think Fedor wants to stand and trade with Tyson too long. He will get close and then it is all in his world. Tyson won't even have time to bite an ear before his arm or neck is broken.
     
  14. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    WTF. a while ago you have this thing against race. now its animals. i bet fedor's skin is as thick as a rhino's; bear claws wouldn't scratch it. not for his life. and he could dodge bullets. not even chuck norris stands in his way, no sir he would silently kill him and rambo at the same time:rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I have knocked out a big man as well... with one punch. However, we aren't just talking about a big man... we are talking about the best MMA fighter in the world. I don't know where people get the idea that a fight is all about punches. People become a little brainwashed when watching boxing over time. You start to think these people are untouchable because you see what they can do when a person is boxing along with them, under boxing rules. I am not even talking about just grappling either... I have seen a lot of boxers get their asses handed to them on their feet in an MMA gym. Guys who would own the MMA guy under boxing rules... just can't adjust to the fact that the person can kick, knee, elbow, clinch, shoot, ect.... You can't even use a normal boxing stance... and once that stance goes you aren't boxing anymore. It is 1000 times easier to just get your hands on someone in order to take them down, then it is to land a knockout punch before that happens. Especially when you are talking about a person who is a world class grappler vs a person who has no grappling experience what-so-ever.

    Also... you have to realize that these guys can take punches too. In the event that Tyson does land a punch... it isn't as if someone like Fedor would be automatically knocked out. That's a fantasy world. There are plenty of strikers in the world who hit as hard as Tyson, and Fedor has already fought some of them. I would rather take my chances of absorbing a punch from Tyson than a high kick from Cro-Cop.

    Tyson has been in several street altercations and didn't come across to me as someone who would be blowing someone like Fedor apart. None of his street fighting opponents have died either... although people pretend that Tyson kills people with a punch. Hell... he was beating up a drunk 5'3" mexican and his wife (and then another small guy) at that hotel... and had to hit the men several times. Tyson even had to stop and remove his jacket during the fight... Now... if Tyson can't just go in there and blow out a tiny mexican autograph seeker (he beat the guy up, but you know what I mean).... how on earth is he just going to knock out Fedor without any troubles? It isn't going to happen. Fedor (who also happens to be sick with his hands)... would easily move into clinching range... put Tyson down, and ruin him.


    I have been a huge Tyson fan since I was a little kid... but this is reality.