Fedor wants to fight Rickson Gracie

My main point is the ufc isn't a good organiation for fighter's and until guys like fedor and randy show this people will be stuck having to accpet what they are given. There are rumours that m1 is trying to set up tv deals with either hbo or showtime but i can offer no proof of this.

 

All I can say is. How ****ing American of some of you, calling Fedor a coward for not signing with an American org run by a total jackass..

If its really about the sport, moving away from the UFC is the best thing for the sport in order to promote a metropolitain atmosphere for MMA. Japan almost accomplished this with Pride, but then got caught up with limited marketing ability and corruption, Yakuza influence which repulsed a lot of people.. But, nothing the UFC has ever put out has been as electric as the atmosphere that Pride had. Plain and simple.. It really was an international stage, heavy in fighters from all over the world, and the best at that..

The UFC is full of American prospects, and will home grow guys like Rashad Evans before they will go after someone like the demolition man. There are already loads of great fighters in the world.

Dont get me wrong.. I'm American as ****.. But, I've also been to Japan, traveled all over the place. All I can tell you is that we can be some narrow minded people at times.

 

MMA will not become like American football and only be popular in America. It will become a global sport like European football and produce top talent from all over the world. Pride was a prime example of an organization that contained a multicultural base of great fighters. Fedor choosing M-1 over the UFC is akin to David Beckham choosing MLS over EPL (but in this case, Fedor is actually the best athlete in his sport trying to build up a new organization).

 

K-1 has JZ, who may be the best 155er in the world, but top to bottom the UFC is a better 155 division.

 

I take it you are ****ing joking the only guys that k1 hero's would even acept from ufc are sherk and bj.

 

Nobodies calling him a coward, and nobodies pissed because he didn't specifically sign with a US company, people are pissed that he signed to an Org that had no other fighters in it. People wouldn't be pissed if say Barnett was already signed with M1 before Fedor, or if he had signed with a company who at least has a history of making decent fights happen like Cage Rage or K-1.

People are pissed he signed to an Org that has yet to sign a HW opponent for the guy who is supposed to be the premier HW in the sport, people are pissed the premier HW in the sport hasn't fought a top contender in over 2 years now.

 

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Mark Coleman, Hunt, and Lindland not bad. Tim Sylvia, ok he is an ogre, Gonzaga?

No legs to stand on for Couture. Especially considering his career, riddled with losses.

 

Yea, theyre much better of with

Rani Yahya, who just got bitched by Chase Beebe and has no business fighting at 155
Miyata, who just isn't good
Kultar Gill, the Canadian Corey Hill
Shibata, the pro wrestler
Ralek Gracie, with 1 fight
Andre Amade, the 3rd or 4th best LW at Chute Boxe

K1 has JZ, then Shaolin, and Uno as a distant third.

UFC has BJ, Sherk, Joe Stevenson, Frankie Edgar, Hermes France, Tyson Griffin, Spencer Fisher, Marcus Aurelio, Clay Guida, even Kenny Florian.

Every last one of those fighters would be at worst the third best fighter in K1, most of them would be the second or first.

 

No, theyre not bad, but they were also completely random and had done nothing to be considered even an outsider contender.

Why is Fedor fighting these people? What made them the opponent? Because it certainly was not based on merit.

Tim Sylvia was the champion, Gonzaga was the clear #1 contender. They earned their shot, based on their accomplishments.

 

I think it depends on if you include fighter's like kid yamamoto etc as well.

 

Gonzaga was the clear #1 contender?

How the hell did a guy comming off of two losses in a weight devision below heavy, come out of retirement and get a title shot? Because the devision is shallow.. Beating Silvia, the champ (which really is a joke) and then beating Gonzaga, take a good look at his resume.. One win over a clearly shot Crocop.. And all of a sudden Couture is the #1 heavy in the world.. It just doesn't make any sense at all..

Especially.. Considering this.. I think Coleman could beat Gonzaga, and Hunt would embarass Silvia. I also think Lindland, though smaller than Couture is about as talented as Couture, who Fedor made look like a chew toy.

 

Yes Gonzaga was the clear #1 contender, Gonzaga was going to fight Sylvia, got hurt, then Dominated CroCop unlike any other fighter has ever done, he was the #1 contender. Randy filled in for Gonzaga who was hurt, as the 2x former HW champ, it was a pretty good substitution, considering he won. He also wasn't coming off two losses, good try though.

As for Sylvia, what the **** is wrong with people? This guy wins fights, this is a sport, a competition, results are easily measurable and Sylvia has them. Ricco was going to sub him in under a minute, Assuerio Silva was going to dominate him, Arlovski was going to KO him twice, Monson was going to submit him, and Vera was going to have trouble deciding if he wanted to KO him or Sub him. And guess what? Tim just kept winning, not recognizing him as a top HW at this point is flat out stupid. Yes, he's big, gangly, seemingly uncoordinated, and throughly unlikeable, he ****ing wins, and thats all that matters.

Mark Hunt has absolutely nothing on Sylvia in terms of MMA accomplishments, not even close.

But continue believing that Coleman would beat Gonzaga, believing that the fact that Lindland does his best fighting at 185 doesn't matter, Hunt is better than Sylvia, everybody in the UFC sucks, everybody from Pride is good, and the world is flat if you want to; the rest of the world has moved the **** on.

 

How can you blatantly go from the type of guy who is articulate when considering matchups, then become dumbed down when you know your dead wrong, and change the subject altogether?

Lindland is like a smaller version of Couture, but with a better record :rofl. Unfortunately, thats not saying much, as much as I like Couture.. He was humiliated by Fedor, looked like a chewtoy that didn't even belong in the same ring. Now, the fight between Lindland and Fedor was a technical one.. Fedor, while strong isn't necessarily known for his strength, but instead his brain, flexibility and quickness for a large guy. To dominate, clown, make look silly a guy like Lindland shows a lot, in that Lindland and Couture are so similar.

As for Mark Hunt.. Fedor clowned him too. Me bringing up Mark Hunt is just to show the level of fighter Tim Sylvia truly is.. You are having trouble now, comming to the realization that Mark Hunt would trash Tim Sylvia.. Gonzaga, a guy who you say was clearly the #1 contender BEFORE he beat Crocop, which is the only name worth a crap on his resume. Should I repeat that? Gonzaga was scheduled to fight Sylvia BEFORE he beat Crocop, and was the #1 contender then.

Now, all of a sudden. Randy Couture, who had to move down to light heavy because big heavies like Barnett and Ricco made him look weak and overpowered, outsized him as wrestlers and bjj practitioners. Then, retired after being K.O.'d twice, gets a free shot at the heavyweight title and is all of a sudden the best heavy?

After he lost to.. Do I really have to name EVERYBODY he's lost to?

 

Your arguement may be correct maybe not. Usually arguements where A>B>C>D thus A>D are just rhetoric though.

The main point is that Fedor may fight Rickson Gracie. No matter what you think of the history of Fedor ( I personally think its A+) its hard to come to grips with this. Maybe its personal, maybe its money, maybe its easy; but its not doing anything but force us to cling to his past glory (as all the proponents are) instead of getting excited by his current status.

 

Fedor is the marque fighter for M1 so surely a fight with either randy or someone with a name like rickson is the best publicity M1 could get as a new organisation.