Fedor wasnt knocked out-Herb Dean's premature stoppage robbery-Dana compliments Heb

Yeah sound about right

 

Of course you didn't

 

Whatever dude. Maybe I misunderstood you although being so flustered you headcharge you opponent and come of worse for wear sounds like slipping up to me. I do feel there is a profound misunderstanding of those Fedor-Nog fights. Too many people think he was able to sit in Nog's guard for the duration without any problem and that just wasn't the case - he did great in the first fight but was in terrible trouble in the second and kept the fight standing in the third.

 

And my point is that Nogueira was being unusually passive in that first fight (rumours that he was badly injured going it) and that when Nogueira brought his A-game in the second fight Fedor was nowhere near as comfortable in the guard even though he was at his peak.

 

Because you said that Fedor wouldn't have slipped up inside somebody's guard when he was at his peak, and YET HE DID EXACTLY THAT IN THE SECOND NOG FIGHT!

Why is this difficult for you to understand?

 

Jones had no defensive fundamentals, that's all anyone is trying to say but as usual so much **** is pouring out of your gob that you're not paying the slightest heed to anyone else's opinion. Roy had a good jab, awesome combination punching, top-notch and very economical footwork (when not showboating), and a variety of counterpunches that were outstanding. These are fundamental boxing skills and they're on display above.

His flaws both offensively and defensively are also on display above and the only fundamental show of defense is when he gets cracked and puts his shell up and even then, that guard is not good. He just never had to learn to fight a proper defensive fight because he could see the leather coming in slo-mo from the time he was a youngster on and therefore he was there to be hit when he was in his mid-thirties and still attempting to slip punches Matrix-style.

You are however correct in saying that Jones did have a quick and massive drop-off in all facets of his game and I do think that cutting back from HW so drastically was a problem. But, the guy never had proper defense and never had a Chin so unlike other fighters who have a fallback, be it flawless defense or a monster Jaw, Roy was ****ed when the speed left and super ****ed when it everything else left at the same time.

 

He didn't get submitted because they had a clash of heads and the fight was stopped. He ****ed up inside the guard and things could have gone very differently had Fedor's Glass Skin not shattered.

Fedor's submission defense was never ironclad, he just didn't fight a lot of guys that could have exposed it.

 

The second fight lasted all of 3minutes 52seconds before Fedor charged Nogueira with his head, busting himself up and only escaping with a NC.

But you're right Popkins, because Nog didn't submit him that wasn't a slip up. He meant to get busted up and the fight called off...oh wait!