Fedor wins world Sambo title

And im the one grasping for straws...

Lindland can't hang with LHW? Hah, thats good terminology. The guy barely lost. He lost to a someone who is IMO currently #1 p4p fighter. I'm glad you joined in with those guys being terrible at this. Rampage was long gone to another org, UFC fyi. That fight would be impossible to be made in Russia.

No one is trying to make an "almighty god" out of anyone here. If anything its you with making out Couture being #1 H/W lol. You guys are hanging around sherdog too much or something, I can see the trends too. As soon as some bandwagon starts over there, certain people run over here and start spreading it instead of using you're own equipment between ears.

 

As for the original post, I really don't mean to bash competitive sambo, but despite being Russian in development, sambo is usually seen as a place to compete for those who were not good enough, or didn't know the right people, to compete in judo. Most of the best fighters are rejects from the Russian judo circuit and teams, Fedor included. He showed some great aptitude for judo, so I'm not sure what category of those two he falls into, I would guess the latter.

 

Sambo is more popular though. You can't really say Sambo are Judo rejects cause they are very different sports. The only people who would say that are probably Judo guys. Its like comparing wrestling or bjj to MMA. Also, you keep talking from this first point of you like you KNOW and u have been to Russia. Saying things such as "sambo is usually seen," seen by who? Are you from Russia by any chance?

 

Here we go...

He didn't refuse the fight because of "loyalty" to any organization. He refused the fight because he had been retired for almost a year, following back-to-back knockout losses against a lightheavyweight.

The fact is that Fedor seems to like fighting the losers of big fights - look at Lindland/Rampage and Liddell/Couture.

If I called out Mike Tyson right now and he refuses to fight me, does that make him a *****? He's actually younger than Couture is, and coming off back-to-back losses to bums.

Silva lost to a guy who outweighed him by nearly 80 pounds. "David and Goliath" matches are only fair when the Goliath is a total can.

Hunt beat Cro Cop, yes, but CC doesn't beat anyone with the mental fortitude + chin of a guy like Hunt. By your logic, Hunt's win over CC makes him a good win. That makes Gonzaga a better win, because he won by spectacular KO.

Why can't I? The difference is the same - Lindland fights at 185 because he's a good fighter at 185. It doesn't matter if he walks around at 300lbs, if he fights at 185 then he's a 185lb fighter.

You even admit that he's a decent heavyweight, but obviously not top 10. If that's the case, then where are Fedor's recent wins over top 10 HW contenders? It's no surprise that he can beat decent heavyweights, any one of the world-class can do that.

I never said Nog, CC, or Fedor were journeymen. I said that the nameless opponents that have been beating up on Coleman since 2002 were journeymen. He would've been a good win for Fedor....seven or eight years ago.

 

Radiant, this is pointless when you simply don't know what you're talking about. Read up on some facts instead of talking out of your ass, than come talk to me. I'm not even gona bother pointing out the things you said were simply false because simple, known records prove you wrong.

 

Now you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about?

Point out something that I said that's based on false information.

"Known records" don't prove me wrong, they enhance my argument.

 

mmk

 

It is not enough to base your reasoning on factual information. It is also required to follow the rules of logic - and that is where you have miserably failed.

:deal

 

Funny part is that he even failed to base his reasoning on factual information . He makes up some stuff, then calls top3 fighters jorneymen. Backtracks on what he said. Then without even knowing the facts starts trying to reason with something he made up :rofl. This been going on for like 3 pages now :tired.

 

What did I make up?

I never called any top 3 fighter a journeyman. I specifically said that the fighters Coleman has been struggling to beat since 2001-2002 are journeymen.

He didn't struggle with Nog, CC, or Fedor...they blew him the **** out.

Coleman hasn't beaten anyone of note since the 1990s.

 

Loss Fedor Emelianenko Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal 10/21/2006 2 1:15
Win Mauricio Rua TKO (Broken Arm) PRIDE 31 - Dreamers 2/26/2006 1 0:49
Win Milco Voorn Submission (Choke) Bushido Europe - Rotterdam Rumble 10/9/2005 1 0:56
Loss Mirko Filipovic KO (Punches) PRIDE 29 - Fists Of Fire 2/20/2005 1 3:40
Loss Fedor Emelianenko Submission (Armbar) PRIDE - Total Elimination 2004 4/25/2004 1 2:11
Win Don Frye Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 26 - Bad to the Bone 6/8/2003 3 5:00
Loss Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Submission (Triangle/Armbar) PRIDE 16 - Beasts From The East 9/24/2001 1 6:10
Win Allan Goes TKO (Knees) PRIDE 13 - Collision Course 3/25/2001 1 1:19

 

My mistake. I meant that his only decent win since the 1990s was the freak one over Shogun (who is a light-heavyweight).

He lost to Fedor x2, Nog, and CC..the only three good fighters (sans Shogun, but I explained that above) that he's faced since the nineties.

 

Exactly. Shouldn't the "Baddest Man" in MMA want to fight the best competition?

 

Faded since the 90`s? He was the Grand Prix winner in 2000.He still went on to fight some of the best names in the sport despite career threatening injuries.