I don't care how you respond to my posts or if you respond at all for that matter,it' s you who are blowing a nothing photo and the fact that we disagree into some kind of drama here not me.Do exactly as you like.I always do. I don't think anyone here gives a good f8ck if I live or die,actually why should they?
He denies factual filmed events, acts like a child, which is fine, he has his agenda, but I don't get why he randomly posted the overweight Louis wrestler pic. It's obvious he simply has a deep seeded hatred for the man, as well as Marciano.[/QUOTE] You nailed it yet again Mongoose, my congratulations!
He denies factual filmed events, acts like a child, which is fine, he has his agenda, but I don't get why he randomly posted the overweight Louis wrestler pic. It's obvious he simply has a deep seeded hatred for the man, as well as Marciano.[/QUOTE] Exactly, he should man up especially his observations of Louis in the marciano fight, are wrong and he knows it, thats why he cant see the punches that Louis landed on Marciano. I can stand a novice saying these things but he should know better and he is just being mean spirited by posting those pic's. Maybe cos he is "irate" and fuming cos somebody called him on it. Mc Louis was human he made mistakes and he paid for them like a man. No need to further punish the guy cos you're upset. That Marciano elbow, you could do the same with countless guys, so why post it except to make a negative point and that goes for both pic's.[/QUOTE] You believe I have, a deep seated hatred for Louis and indeed Marciano that again is your prerogative.I repeat I'm neither irate or fuming,I'm sitting at my desk drinking a cup of tea, just about to have some toast and peanut butter for breakfast,I couldn't be more chilled actually. If you would care to trawl my posts,and there are enough of them,you should be able to form an opinion of my regard for Joe Louis,like wise I have many times said Marciano was a fine man and a great fighter. No body here,and I mean nobody, has defended Joe Louis more vociferously and doggedly from scurrilous attacks on his ability and reputation than myself. Anyone in doubt on this have only to read my responses to the hate that Mendoza has posted concerning him ,crooked judges,and referees to gain wins he didn't deserve,allegations of being mob controlled,and now stories of him being practically half witted at the age of 52? Fourteen years after he made that quote he was refereeing the Quarry vFrazier fight! After my long and consistant history of praising and defending Louis on this forum, many would be annoyed to find themselves accused of being mean spirited,negative,immature ,and agenda driven.I'm not, because I truthfully do not give a sh*t what anyone here thinks about me,I don't make threads here anymore and the half a dozen posters that I respect because of their content and the objective responses they give to others are massively out weighed by the posters for whom I have zero regard.Feel free to critique my posts as you see fit,as to the respect you mentioned, it has to be earned.I should imagine those half a dozen here whose opinions I respect are aware of it as to the others ?IDGAF. I hope this explains my position?
Exactly, he should man up especially his observations of Louis in the marciano fight, are wrong and he knows it, thats why he cant see the punches that Louis landed on Marciano. I can stand a novice saying these things but he should know better and he is just being mean spirited by posting those pic's. Maybe cos he is "irate" and fuming cos somebody called him on it. Mc Louis was human he made mistakes and he paid for them like a man. No need to further punish the guy cos you're upset. That Marciano elbow, you could do the same with countless guys, so why post it except to make a negative point and that goes for both pic's.[/QUOTE] Indeed. Exactly as Dempsey1234 said. If you press him hard and, " Checkmate him " with facts, links, and films, he will go off topic because he's abused. Sometimes he'll play the race card. Oddly enough he seems to have a built-in antipathy to most accomplished White heavyweights...Corbett, Fitzsimmons, Jeffries, Marciano, The Klitschko's.... Even UK's very own Tyson Fury before he went bat crazy!
Since you have so much love and respect for the man that was Joe Louis then why just post negative stuff about the man. You made some statements that made Louis into a one armed, punchless wonder, and then posted two negative pic's of both. Why? What point were you trying to make? You say why the drama? There is no drama, the facts are and only the facts are simple. You said that Louis had no power, didnt use his right hand, basically fought one handed. I responded not in a bad way by pointing out why I thought you were wrong and even pointed out where Louis did rock Marciano and you answer, I've see 50 times on super8 and DVD, I find it incredible that you missed the two punches Louis threw that rocked Marciano. Then you went out of your way to find to negative pic's of Louis and Marciano to what extent? You keep mentioning that you could care less and that you are at peace with the world while drinking your tea, then why are you responding? Look mc, fyi, why not show some respect, I dont want to know or care that you have defended Louis or whoever we are talking about this thread and your posts on this thread. I am really sorry you are taken this wrong, but you set yourself up for this, with the statements and posts you make and worse you claim complete innocence. We dont want to know ydgaf or that you have tea and PB for "breakfast", or you dont care cos we know you do but please tell us what relavance does it have for this thread?
You accuse me of negativity,being mean spirited ,childish, having an agenda , insulting Joe Louis and you agree with another that I hate Louis. I've said nothing personal about you and I sure haven't disparaged Joe Louis. I feel no need to explain myself to you or anyone else ,if you don't like my posts put me on ignore. You have two sidekicks to parrot your posts and agree with you on this thread now, Mendoza and Kentucky,[Mongoose] Cobra, be satisfied with that.
Cos of your sarcasm, and your complete denial of clear evidence to the contrary. I didnt say you hated Louis, but c'mon your acting innocent in posting a pic of Louis and Marciano that you had to search for and claiming you meant nothing by it please. Now you are saying that you didnt disparage Louis, what do you call that pic flattering? That was mean spirited, sorry. Childish that you deny what is obvious, and comeback with I have it on super8 and DVD, and you still cant see it, then you post that pic like you did it innocently, c'mon. You had to search for that pic and you posted it for a reason that equals agenda. I would say that was negative so now you are saying it was innocent. All I am saying is there needs to be some respect given to these past greats, not everything is negative. I commented on what you posted. Now about Mendoza and Kentucky Cobra, they have their own bone to pick with you and you should know why. You also have sidekicks, need I mention them? Like I said before on other threads cant we have an honest discussion, You're right you dont have to explain yourself to anybody, so dont. I dont think anybody gives a hoot that you dont care or that your money is not in the UK, or that you had tea and PB it has no relevance to this thread. I come on here to enjoy boxing talk but some things I cant ignore and this thread I felt I had to say something. I am sorry we got into it, but please dont pretend you are innocent, I will leave it there.
Only two? It seems like are at odds with a lot more than two neither are sidekicks of mine. Did I say you hate Joe Louis? You might want to check on that one
I thought Joe Louis admitted he blew most of his money gambling on the golf course, and he blew it before he'd even made it, getting advances from Uncle Mike Jacobs. I don't think he was particularly hard down by. It's hard to have a lot of sympathy for a man who bet and lost fortunes on golf - and Joe himself admitted that, and took responsibility because he was a man, not some feeble object of pity. I mean, yes, everyone knows the Tax Man is cold, that goes without saying. Can't expect any favours from that quarter either. Just my opinion.
The personal things I posted were to illustrate my distance from this trivia,and I mentioned my tax situation,or lack of it because you drew attention to it to make an analogy not me! I have no sidekicks here . Maybe best not to reply to my posts since they upset you so much . Now go and talk negative about someone else you're beginning to sound like GROUND HOG DAY ,maybe have a group hug with your two new acolytes?
mcvey, The personal things I posted were to illustrate my distance from this trivia, Yeah right!! Which personal things like the Louis pic? Please. Why cant you just address the questions that were addressed to you about own posts? Louis having no power, basically fighting one-handed didnt throw many right hands, all you do, is deny what was obvious, evade answering the question with smug remarks. and I mentioned my tax situation,or lack of it because you drew attention to it to make an analogy not me! I am sorry, I didnt ask YOU for your tax info, what I said was "even you pay taxes", rhetorically speaking there's a difference you must know, then someone saying "what is your tax situation", you see. I have no sidekicks here . One just gave you a hug Maybe best not to reply to my posts since they upset you so much . Why do you think I am upset or angry? I love coming on here and arguing, no problem, I dont cuss, I respond to posts, which I believe is still allowed. I have to hand it to you, your posting of "Louis having no power, basically fighting one-handed and didnt throw many right hands", piqued my interest, so I responded. Now go and talk negative about someone else you're beginning to sound like GROUND HOG DAY ,maybe have a group hug with your two new acolytes? Just cos my "two new acolytes", agree with what I wrote doesnt mean I know them, but there you go, saying things cos you are angry. GROUND HOG DAY, yes, cos you wont address responses to your own posts, and comeback with smug answers and then you say you "innocently" post an unflattering pic of Louis. Just so that you know I will respond to whatever piques my interest even yours, you are welcome to do the same. Everything I have posted is in answer to your negativity. Please tell me some obvious positive remarks you've made in response to your own posts. Again nobody asked for your personal information, If you keep answering the smug way that you do expect somebody to respond in kind, it's only fair. All that aside I do like some of your posts on other threads but on this one, you are wrong, and the evidence is clear, Louis still had power, threw right hands and wasnt a one-handed fighter it doesnt require reading articles, or posting quotes just watching your favorite version of the fight, having some tea and PB, and maybe cos you still cant see it, slo-mo just the last :30 sec. of the first rd. That's all, that's not too hard now is it?.