Felix Trinidad and Antonio Margarito's Attempted Cheating....

you still don't understand the difference between plaster casts and illegal wraps?

 

Trinidad's gloves were not loaded per se...Tito's Dad layered the wraps almost having the same effect. Layering of the wraps is controversial and I think illegal in only one state. This was evident when he fought Hopkins. Tito's punches had no effect whatsoever on Bernard.

I also believe that Juan Manuel Lopez' hands are wrapped the same way.

 

its widely known thru-out boxing that trinidad sr did a method where trinidad's handwrappings would be hard like a cinderblock its not a debate, the question is should he be banned for doing that?

On September 29, 2001 before the fight between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad, team Hopkins sent a representative from their team to over-see Tito's hands being wrapped. When their representative arrived he was shocked to see that Tito's left hand was already wrapped, signed off and the boxing glove was on. In an exclusive interview Bernard Hopkins (said), "I sent my team in there to watch Trinidad wrap his hands and when they got there
Trinidad's left hand was already wrapped and he had his boxing glove on. So my trainer, Bouie Fisher who has been doing this stuff for a long time went over there to straighten it up. The thing is Trinidad has been getting away with doing this for a long time. I know for a fact that he has done it at least one other fight. They are used to being able to do whatever they want and get away with it. That is how it is in boxing."
First of all, you have to wonder who this commissioner was that let Don Felix wrap Tito's hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp being there. Hopkins said, "not only did he let him wrap the hands without us being there, but he was in there joking and laughing and talking Spanish with the Trinidads like they were best friends. When Bouie told them that he would have to take it off and rewrap it in front of someone fron their camp, he said "NO," its
already wrapped and it's too close to time for the fight to start. Bouie had to go to the head commissioner before they were made to rewrap his hands."
Luckily for Hopkins, Bouie Fisher is old school and he was not going to let this fight go on with Tito having wrapped his left hand and nobody from his camp watching it. "Bouie kept telling them, either we do this by the book or we don't do it all," said Hopkins.
It didn't make since to Fisher why the Trinidad's were so insistent on not rewrapping the hand because obviously they knew the rules. They have been in enough of these big fights to know that a representative from the other camp is allowed to be in the room while they are wrapping Tito's hand. Even if the New York Commission's Representative didn't know any better, the Trinidads definitely did. The Trinidads went so far as to actually say, "If we have to rewrap Tito's hand then there will be no fight."
Why was this left hand wrapping so important to the Trinidads?
Finally, after the head commissioner became involved the Trinidads were told to either rewrap the left hand or the fight was off. After much argument, they finally agreed to rewrap the hand with a member from the Hopkins team present.
Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.
Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).
In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.
Don Felix has insisted in several interviews that, "I have always wrapped Tito's hands this way and nobody else has ever said anything."

NOTE: MAYORGA SAID DE LA HOYA HIT HARDER THEN TRINIDAD, HUSSEIN RAHMAN SAID TRINIDAD USED ILLEGAL HAND WRAPPINGS AND GAVE HOPKINS THE HEADS UP BEFORE THEIR FIGHT ABOUT IT

VARGAS MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT HE THOUGHT TRINIDAD MIGHT CHEAT AND SO DID JOPPY

 

Compacting the bone? WTF!?!? The bone is as dense as it can get. But apparently not as dense as you....

 

Both guys only came out with that **** AFTER Hopkins did. Vargas stated he was informed by someone from PR, but would not say anything to protect their identity.

Joppy claimed (again, only after Hops brought it up) that he was warned PRIOR to his fight w/ Tito by Rahman...and yet, Joppy DID NOTHING? atsch

 

Margo- Plaster

Tito- Tape on his skin

hmmm....and then Tito proceeded after the bout to kayo Cherifi and kayo the iron-chinned Mayorga for the first time.

 

Exactly...its hilarious how the only people they interviewed after those allegations were people brutally knocked out by Tito.

 

Hopkins exposed Tito and told it like it was. Bias against Margarito.

 

LOL about the Cheato Trinidad! And its true Trinidad did not have any plaster, no one said he did. What he did have was illegal handwraps and he was caught before the Hopkins fight. His dad would wrap his hands illegally with extra gauze and tape in a way that when he hit it felt as if he hit you with rocks. Sure it's not plaster but illegal nonetheless, even though it isn't plaster he still put other fighters' careers and lives in higher danger by wrapping illegally.

 

Its also interesting to note that Tito's power almost completely faded since he was caught using illegal wraps in the hopkins fight. He had only two more TKOs afterwards, an unimpressive stoppage against a journeyman and it took him 8 rounds to stop a no skill-Mayorga who stood in front of him the whole fight. No matter how you look at it Trinidad cheated. The NY Commission ruled it illegal weather anybody likes it or not. Many people now question Margarito's entire career, why shouldn't they question trinidad's career? He didn't use plaster but he still used wraps that had an illegal tag on them and it put his opponents' lives in danger. As if boxing isn't dangerous enough.

 

I assume Naziim is Puerto Rican as well...
As well as the Rican who slipped the plaster in his wraps.
The CSAC who suspended him were all Puerto Rican or at least 80%!!!

It's written all over that dirty *******s cheezy face!!!

 

Tell me who had knocked out or even hurt Mayorga before Trinidad? This was after a 2 year layoff and not even at his prime weight.

 

Bernards team that exposed Titos wraps described basically that Tito hands would become cast like, plaster like.

You dont find that strange that the same person going into another big fight with one of his prize fighters said the same thing about Margarito? I mean how often does lighting strike in the same place?:huh