Felix Trinidad is Overrated...Especially his Punching Power....You agree?

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  1. Chango

    Chango Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because it wasnt cheating. Like someone else explained above, it wasnt about the wraps but how they were being wrapped. The way Papa Trinidad wrapped Tito's hands wasnt legal in NY but legal in other states. There was not plaster or illegal susbtance. There was no cheating so there was no need for a ban, suspension or fine.
    If you ever boxed before you know that KO power dont come from your fists. Tape and gauze dont give you KO power. The only thing tape or gauze gives you is a way to bust up and cut up your opponenet over the course of the fight. Very brutal
    Tito didnt punish, cut up or bust up people for 12 rounds, most of the time he would put them out as soon as he made contact.
    If we had 5 boxers like Tito in boxing right now, boxing popularity would be through the roof.
     
  2. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By naazim himself speaking



    NAAZIM RICHARDSON RESPONDS TO JOPPY'S COMMENTS ON TRINIDAD'S WRAPS: "IT AIN'T LIKE THE MARGARITO THING"

    By Percy Crawford | June 10, 2014
    "Joppy always felt some kind of way about that and he said something to me about catching the thing with Tito. But the thing is this, Tito Trinidad deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because the way Tito got his hands wrapped was legal in other states. It wasn't legal in New York, but it was legal in other states," stated world-class trainer Naazim Richardson, who shared his thoughts on recents comments made by former middleweight champion William Joppy regarding Hall of Famer Felix "Tito" Trinidad. According to Joppy, Trinidad didn't deserve to be inducted into the Hall of Fame because he felt the multi-division champion used illegal hand wraps throughout his career.

    It's an issue that had never been brought up until Trinidad faced future Hall of Famer Bernard Hopkins months after his dominant 5th-round stoppage of Joppy. Richardson found himself in the middle of a controversy prior to that fight when he noticed that the technique which Trinidad's father and trainer, Don Felix, used to wrap his hands was not in accordance with the rules of the New York State Athletic Commission. Though ultimately Trinidad was required to re-wrap his hands, Richardson clarified that at the time, the technique was still legal in several other states.

    "If they said we were fighting him in New York, okay then, y'all have an argument, but they weren't talking about his hand wraps when they made the fight. So by them not making it an issue, because they fought him in New York too, he knocked you out, you gotta live with it," he explained. "See, the way Margarito was getting his hands wrapped, that **** was illegal in MMA and every other sport and in every state. I can see if William [Joppy] was making that argument about Margarito, but with Tito, he just tried to wrap his hands...it could be an honest mistake."

    Richardson added, "The Tito thing I think was more of ignorance. It was the fact that they were used to wrapping his hands like that all the time and most of the places you fight, like Vegas and everything, it's cool to wrap like that. So when they came to New York, they didn't think nothing of it. They just wrapped his hands the way they always wrap his hands. Well, we working by and abiding by the rules of New York, so I argued the case. But it ain't like the Margarito thing where he was blatantly trying to pull one off. One was ignorance and one was illegal."
     
  3. Chango

    Chango Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you, good info from the man himself. End of thread
     
  4. Boxing Truth

    Boxing Truth Active Member banned Full Member

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    Shane Mosley's EPO Hormones/ Steroids PEDs usage combination was illegal.
     
  5. Boxing Truth

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    Tito was cheater that used illegal handwraps.

    Tito also cheated with an intentional low blow on Fernando Vargas to avoid being KO'd by Vargas after Vargas dropped him and almost stopped Tito.
     
  6. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Although I completely disagree with you...


    I respect your opinion .
     
  7. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny you capatilize the word "illegal" when there was nothing he could go to jail for, hence, not illegal. Now let's compare an actual known cheater with Tito for contrast....Margarato. After Tito's incident he came back and KO'd two fighters in the same manner he would've been expected to before it. Cherifi TKO 4 and Mayorga TKO 8. Compare that Margarato's comeback fight, an uneventful 12 rd. decision against the unheard of Robert Garcia. Now, where's that time Tito made someone bleed from the eyes, ears, and his crushing of someone's orbital with headgear on??...nowhere that only exists for actual weapons brought into the ring by Margarato.

    Tito proved he still had the same power after the incident while Margarato could not, and he always had trouble with great boxers in their prime, his last loss against Roy neither were in their prime. When you add all the facts between what I and others have stated to say that Tito was a cheat, especially when it's know what cheating looks like, is just plain ignorant haterism.
     
  8. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Tito was one of my ATF's. Loved the way the guy fought. Never made excuses. He could drop guys from nowhere. Regarding the Hopkins fight, Hopkins most effective shots that night were with his head, which he used repeatedly. But then I have always hated the way Hopkins fights. Dirty. Head. Low blows. Fakes injuries. Can't stand the guy.
     
  9. Boxing Truth

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    Mayorga's team dont know boxing, and "dropped the ball" when Tito was illegally handwrapped.

    Margarito lost to Pacquiao & Cotto because the fights were FIXED and he "threw the fight" in both charity events, done for Top Rank & GBP bribe offers.

    Its not hating on Tito, just exposing his cheating tactics, that makes him a fraud.
     
  10. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    La gente no entienden este, **** explaining carnal.
     
  11. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take a easy no too many fighters could survive a left hook from Tito.
     
  12. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You and anyone who agrees with you is an utter fcuking moron! :hi:
     
  13. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There you go man, just ignore everything that's been said that amounts to the obvious truth of Tito's innocence and make up some re re stuff based on nothing but your **** poor imagination...that'll always make you look like a genius.
     
  14. Forza

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    You can't compare stacking wraps to plaster of paris come on. Stop acting like tito had bricks in his gloves.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if anything his punching power was underrated.