Felix Trinidad vs Julian Jackson @ 154

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  1. paidinrakim

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    Who would win this brutal slugfest?
    IMO first to land the big punch wins
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    Jackson by early KO. Tito generally took his time getting into the groove of things whereas Jackson often came out bombing.
     
  3. teeto

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    I usually say the come forward guys who dont have/attempt using great footwork laterally will get stopped by Tito. But Jackson imo can maybe do it, comes out to finish early, and Pea said why thats bad for Tito, correctly. Jackson could get the stoppage here, BUT Tito can aswell, and im taking him for the reasons on the first line of this post. Doesnt matter who you are, i think going in for a tear up with h2h most probably the best finisherr the 154 division has ever seen doesnt work out for you.
     
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    Only one line needed. Sometimes paragraphs are pointless in certain instances. More could be added, but thats the core of this fight.
     
  5. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd have to take Tito by early knockout. Trinidad did suffer early flash knockdowns. But he got up in reasonably good shape. However if Jackson were to get tagged, He would be on ***** street. When jackson gets nailed his recovery time is very low. Plus Trinidad had better boxing ability & wasn't as wide open as Jackson for a counterpunch.
     
  6. teeto

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    Totally agree on the point made on Tito's early KDs, but i think the point Sweet Pea made is not about the chin of Tito, more of the devastating fashion that Jackson starts bouts, and the fact that Tito generally takes the first few rounds before getting going.

    As you can see, i picked Tito for the reasoning i outlined, but Pea definitely has a point there.
     
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    Hard to boil this one down to one fight IMO.

    If both landed hard enough, both could end it early. Tito could recover better from being hurt, but Jackson was the bigger puncher at 154.

    I would say more times than not Jackson stops Tito within about 4 rounds. But Tito has such a big chance to land one that puts Jackson to sleep, he cant be discounted.

    Out of 10 fights Id say Jackon takes it 7 times.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Tito did often recover after being floored or overwhelmed early, but I'm strongly doubting he's recovering from a Jackson punch the same way he's recovering from a Campas punch. Their chins are about even the way I see it, the edge here belongs to Jackson in that he's the faster starter and the more aggressive puncher in general. Tito generally picks his shots, lands something big, and then goes for the kill, whereas Jackson goes for the kill from the outset.
     
  9. the cobra

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    On the other hand, I could see Jackson getting caught by big shots first because of this. This fight just comes down to who lands big first, and the way I see it both have an equal chance at doing so, Jackson because Tito is there to be hit, especially early, and Trinidad because Jackson could be countered rather easily by a precise puncher.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Tito was no more precise than Jackson. In fact Jackson was probably the more fundamentally sound, textbook boxer of the two.
     
  11. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'm not saying he was. I'm saying both men would have little difficulty finding the other with power shots, and If Jackson were to be too aggressive he could just as easily be caught and hurt by Trinidad as he could do the same to Tito. I don't see any way you could clearly favor one man in this bout, someone is going to land big and take his opponent out, I don't think either one has a better chance at doing it than the other.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    Again, my reasoning is based on Tito's vulnerability in the early rounds, as he usually took his time getting his shots off and getting into the groove of the fight, whereas Jackson came out aggressively, especially against someone like Tito, who'd be within range at all times. Jackson often hurt fighters early, whereas Tito was most likely to be hurt early, and this was shown to be true in quite a few of his fights.
     
  13. Robbi

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    Trinidad was vulnerable during the early stages of fights against mediocre opposition. It's one of the factors when I pick against him when he's up against fellow greats with serious power, ala Hearns and Jackson. Although the style element and how the opponents he's matched against fight in general. Also their own weaknesses.
     
  14. laxpdx

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    Jackson by KO
     
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    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trinidad was a much better boxer than Jackson and although he showed a tendency to be hurt early,against a puncher of Jacksons ilk I'd bet Tito would be more circumspect than usual.

    I think Felix would box,pick his spots and generally break Jackson down.Jackson had decent speed and sound fundamentals to go with his ridiculous power but was leaky defensively,was chinny and was one dimesional,all of which would spell disaster against a cold,clinical destroyer like Trinidad.

    Tito cleans Jacksons clock out in 5.