Felix Trinidad

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    In the year or so that I've been a member here, I haven't seen much posted on Trinidad. Although he is still active, I suppose enough time has elappsed in his career that we can start talking about him as a classic fighter or at least a candidate.

    Trinidad has a very notable career in my opinion. He has an impressive record of 42-3-0-35, and has only been stopped once in the late rounds against a great fighter in Bernard Hopkins. It should also be mentioned that at least two of Felix's losses came following periods of inactivity. Additionally, "Tito" has managed to become a multiple title holder at Welterweight, Jr. middleweight and middleweight. What's more, he handed a lot of undefeated fighters their first loss. In fact, I believe he defeated around 5 unbeaten foes who's records ranged anywhere from 14-0 to 56-0. His opposition was extremely respectable. From 1993-2004, Trinidad compiled wins over Maurice Blocker, Hector Camacho, Luis Campas, Oba Carr, Pernell Whitaker, Oscar De La Hoya, Fernando Vargas, David Reid and Ricardo Mayorga. He also has a fairly decent second tier list of opponents as well. It should also be noted that he was the Ring 2000 fighter of the year ( for whatever that's worth ).

    I could be missing something here, but it seems to me that Trinidad is a commonly overlooked fighter when we discuss great boxers over the last 30 years ( a popular topic on ESB ). I strongly feel that he is a solid candidate for the status of all time great. It has been my experience that we often take great fighters for granted during the best years of their careers, but find ourselves missing them once they are gone. Such will likely be the case where Trinidad is concerned.....
     
  2. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, for some reason and I believe he'll be remembered as the "Tommy Hearns" of this generation, in part because of the DLH "PR machine."
    Case in point, for some reason DLH has been "CREDITED" with providing the "blueprint" to beating Trinidad....................really, you mean box well, and then RUN during the FINAL 1/3 of a fight...

    More accurately, he LOST to a better boxer and bigger man in Bernard Hopkins and fought valiantly......I'm mixed when it comes to the Winky fight, because Tito reminded me alot of Mike Tyson when he fought Lennox Lewis, no intensity, no fire, actually eerily strange seeing him like that.....This may sound harsh, but the Winky fight was the first fight Tito didn't look like "He wanted to kill someone." But Winky would have always been a tough matchup in that he comes straight in behind that peek a boo and would always make it hard for Tito to set and throw them bombs.

    The guy didn't lost at 147 OR 154 llbs and fought just about everybody...During the past 15 years, there hasn't been a guy I got more pumped in anticipation of him fighting:deal
     
  3. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post.:good
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I hate Trinidad. Horrible style IMO.
     
  5. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Same here, I've never liked him.
     
  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What exactly do you mean by that?
     
  7. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For a fighter with a horribe style, he sure took it to the limits to being a multidivisional champion
     
  8. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trinidad to me was a throwback to the 1970's type fighters in the
    the mid-weights who dueled with each other for national pride and somebody always went down fighting and was carried out on his shield.

    I would like to have seen him and The Hitman meet at mid-ring and
    start flailing punches at each other.

    Somebody is going to hit the deck.
     
  9. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Hate is a strong word
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Hearns was a far better, more diverse, accurate boxer, with the straighter, quicker shots. He'd outbox Tito badly before landing his precision shots first. Power is the only thing Tito has in comparison.
     
  11. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ..............He was one of those guys that made you tune in because you knew there would be carnage.

    I give him a lot of credit. He's one of relatively few TRUE punchers that didn't "fall in love" with his power. He always threw multi-punch combos and threw all the shots correctly. In this regard, he was very well schooled. I think ultimately he falls short of what most would consider true greatness, but whatever. That's such an arbitrary term applied so differently by so many people that it renders the saying virtually useless, so I don't like to get hung up on that.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Not hard to work out what I mean by that. I hate Trinidad based on his style. He lacked a good defense, wasn't fluid, couldn't box on the backfoot, and never showed much versatility. Trinidad seldom went out during rounds to box behind the jab, it was knockout on the mind.

    However, he could punch extremely hard, was in great fights, and had heart and determination by the bucket load.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    You're right. Many fighters with horrible styles in ones opinion might be multi-division champions. You don't have to be the complete package to be great.

    Trinidad's an all-out aggressive bomber, and it worked for him for the most part. But he doesn't do it for me.
     
  14. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Failed to live up to his potential, in my opinion. Watch some early Trinidad fights and it's clear that he fell in love with his power later in his career.
     
  15. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ..........What are some examples?