Fenech vs the big 3 Mexicans (JMM, EM, MAB) @ SFW and below...

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  1. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    How does this go for the mauler?

    Fenech vs Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Erik Morales at super bantamweight, featherweight and super featherweight

    Note: Juan Manuel didnt fight at superbantamweight i dont think...
     
  2. zoley

    zoley Active Member Full Member

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    Gonz, You have just made Madmancs day. ;)
     
  3. roscoe

    roscoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think all 3 fights would be wars but I honestly can't see Fenech beating any of them. But thats no disgrace........there's a lot of fighters out their that wouldn't beat any of those 3 in their peak. Tough trifecta to be matched against Gonzo. Teams Green & Mandy would have you fired immediately if you were their match maker.
     
  4. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fenech wins the first two due to his strength, size and workrate. he was less effective as he got bigger.

    im assuming a fenech that still had a chin..
     
  5. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Morales was a beast at the lower weights and had great power and would probably outbox fenech and stop him late but it would be a war

    Jmm has the counter punching and workrate but I think fenech might do ok... Hard to say

    I think Barrera is his best bet
     
  6. ALTogethernow

    ALTogethernow Active Member Full Member

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    I also think Fenech loses all 3.
     
  7. swilson120

    swilson120 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Love Fenech as a fighter but he doesn't win against these three legends
     
  8. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A Prime Fennech all 3 would be War and 50/50 I reckon,but I dont think he gets Morales.!!!
     
  9. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Fenech loses to all three prime for prime.
     
  10. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Which guy does he do best against and at what weight. Initially I thought Barrera but I just rewatched his fight against hamed. Sure hamed and fenech are not alike at all by Barrera was a ****ing BEAST at featherweight.
     
  11. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fenech had not trouble with legend mexicans..

    ask carlos zarate and daniel zaragoza.
     
  12. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep we forget Carlos Zarate 70 fights 66 wins and an incredible 63 by TKO and only 4 losses he was one of the best,only had 4 losses and one of those to Fenech.!!!
     
  13. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats a terrible comparison.

    I think on his day however Fenech could be argued over all of them.

    I actually think Morales especially suits him the best stylistically.

    You could just as easily argue for the trio...but I reckon his strength, unconventional combos and suffocating style upsets them all.
     
  14. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you under estimate Zarata,heres an article on this fella.!!!
    THE CRUNCHING POWER OF CARLOS ZARATE


    It is somewhat of a shame when the question comes up , who was the greatest fighter to come out of Mexico ? The answer is usually Julio Cesar Chavez. Some say Salvador Sanchez. Others may say Ruben Olivares. These three are truly legendary fighters. To me one other outstanding boxer from Mexico is Carlos Zarate.

    Zarate began his career in 1970 and won his first fifty two fights. Fifty one by knockout. Amazing !!! A lot of Zarate's early opposition may have been, in the words of Greg Haugen when he questioned Chavez's fine record were over a bunch of Mexican taxi drivers. Well I don't know if I'd go that far but Carlos beefed up his record but he was also learning his trade and learning it well.

    By 1974 Zarate was moving up in the ratings. He stopped a tough fighter from Odessa, Texas named James Martinez. He halted unbeaten Joe Guevara. He stopped Orlando Amores, Benicio Sosa and Nestor Jimenez.

    In May of 1976 Carlos halted the talented Rodolfo Martinez in nine rounds to win the WBC bantamweight title. That would lead to a run of seven title defenses. In 1977 Carlos would meet WBA champion Alfonso Zamora in a non title match. Zarate won the " Battle Of The Z Bombers " with a convincing fourth round kayo. In 1978 Carlos would turn back the challenge of future champion Alberto Davila.

    Carlos decided to move up in weight and challenge the also undefeated Wilfredo Gomez for the WBC 122 pound title. The fight took place October 28, 1978 in Puerto Rico. The extremely gifted Gomez appeared to be too fast for Zarate. Wilfredo had Carlos down and the fight was stopped in the fifth round with Gomez retaining his title.

    Zarate would drop back to 118 pounds. He would defend his WBC title one more time and then meet tough Lupe Pintor. Zarate started well but Pintor came on strong in the later rounds. After fifteen rounds Pintor was awarded a very controversial decision and the title. In disgust, Carlos would walk away from the game for nearly seven years.

    Carlos returned in 1986 and would reel off twelve more wins, ten by knockout. In 1987 he took on Australian sensation Jeff Fenech for the WBC Super Bantamweight title. Jeff held on to his crown by a technical decision in four rounds.On February 29, 1988 Carlos met Daniel Zaragoza for the vacant WBC 122 pound title. The rugged Zaragoza stopped Carlos in the tenth round. It would be Zarate's last fight.

    In all Carlos had 70 fights. He won 66 of them. Sixty three were by the KO route. He was tall and rangy. He had a stiff jab and a booming overhand right. He also had one of the best left hooks to the liver I have ever seen. Three of his four losses were to boxers now enshrined in the International Boxing Hall Of Fame. To me he has to rank among the best bantamweights of all time.
     
  15. ALTogethernow

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    IMO Fenech is greatly over rated, would not last the distance with any of the 3 mentioned. Lucky to have been gifted the days version of the wbf title (ibf at the time), beat a few mumpties to get the wbc sbw, then another gift fighting for a vacanct wbc fw title.
    Got owned by Azuma rematch, losed to a bum like holliday n grove....
    On top of all that, the guy is one of the more genuine ****wits to ever come from Australia., He is a thief, a liar, a violent thug, someone who has used boxers during his pathetic training stint and has ****ed ppl's careers and tossed away friends.

    Why is it this **** gets any respect whatsoever, yet Mundine is dogged all the time?
    Fenech would be candidate for Aussie greatest **** of the century (right up there with bradman)