Fernando Vargas: "Cotto is a one dimensional fighter".

Hmmm...... "wont find that in your backyard'', "hows the undefeated streak going''.... :think You like to claim some sort of superiority when entering the thread... as if everyone else is getting emotional, yet the one really being overemotional and delusional a bit is you. Not quite sure why you felt the need to get personal..... buuuut, if you wanna be like that, aye... its cool, im glad i know where you stand at least. :good


Now, citing one loss against a fighter isnt proof of being one dimensional. Your whole post is basically saying because cotto lost to margarito, and his defence isnt that great, so because of that hes one dimensional. First off, his defence isnt as bad as your making it out to be, you dont fight mosley (big puncher), judah (big puncher), margarito, torres (big puncher), bailey (big puncher) and clottey (heavy hands).... and come away with one defeat if your defence sucks. Oh wait... is this where you come with excuses on why he won all those fight against big bangers? Is his defence great, or even a strong point? no... but its suffeciant. Thats reality.... is it some awsome defence? no.... but it allows him to win fights even against big punchers.

If cottos defence sucks as bad as you say it does...... wow, it will be pretty emberresing if pac cant hit someone that is just there, begging to be hit :roll: I guess we will see.

His collapse against Margarito came in large part from cottos exhaustion and having spent himself in the first half of that fight. You say he 'didnt adapt' against margarito. Maybe because for the first 6 rounds or so, it was a ****ing boxing lesson? maybe because he didnt HAVE to adapt, and by the time he started needing to adapt, he NEEDED to create space and keep his distance because he had already shot his load against a big guy that is going to be there banging away at him. its kinda hard to switch your tactics up when youve already shot your load.

Do you know what its like to feel completely spent while a guy is continuing to bash on you? walk you down while your punches arent hurting him and yet you dont have the energy to do what you know you should? no? oh thats right, i dont like making assumptions but you like to talk **** but in the end i could probably count on one hand how many times youve laced a glove..... well let me explain it to you, sometimes fighters lose because they simply have given all they could,

did hopkins adapt in the roy jones fight?
did hopkins adapt in the JC fight?

No doubt, hopkins is multi dimensional, and a master..... doesnt mean you have to be just like hopkins or mayweather to be considered multi d.

(its funny you try and excuse mosleys loss to cotto on having the wrong gameplan, 'it happens' lol.... yet for cotto against margarito, its not that he had the wrong gameplan, its because hes one dimensional. lol... )

your completely missing what encompasses being one dimensional. You dont have to have some awsome defence to be multi dimensional.


- Can Miguel beat someone by slugging with them? yes.... that is a dimension to him
- Can Miguel beat someone by boxing with them? yes.... that is a dimension to him
- Can Miguel enter a fight the aggresser, winning rounds coming forward banging to the body, and by the end of the fight be effectively boxing off the backfoot? yes? holy **** i think that might be called him having ADAPTED.

You talk as if cotto never adapts.... HELLO, when he isnt coming forward banging away at the body, thats him having ADAPTED to his opponent. holy **** lol....

Guess what.... when hes not walking mosley down, banging away on him ala torres, bailey, ect.... its because hes felt mosleys strength and durability, and elects to go more for a boxing, jabbing, moving strategy.
When his opponents give, cotto takes.... when his opponents push, cotto will box... hes the constant adapter depending on what his opponent is doing. How can someone not see this..... you ask about 'when has cotto ever adapted in a fight' that IS him adapting in a fight.

When hes boxing Ndou in the center of the ring.... and then realises that he wont be able to break ndou down and instead starts boxing off the backfoot, that IS adapting. Asking 'when has cotto ever adapted' is daft.

just like EVERYTHING in boxing.... there are levels, and although Cotto is no Hopkins or Mayweather in terms of diversity and dimensions, hes no master, but you dont have to BE a master to be multi dimensional.


Urango is one d
Miranda is one d
Valuev is one d
Maussa is one d
Peter is one d
Mayorga is one d


Miguel Cotto isnt.... and really its not that hard to see, or grasp the concept.

 

great post :good