Fgters from past or present that were never elite....

i'll give him to benefit of the doubt, i honestly think he's heading to the hall

satterfield is a good call...for 3 rounds he was hell, then it was all downhill. if he didn't get you early, he didn't get you

 

-earnie shavers
-jerry quarry (i think he was fantastic but never quite got over the hump)
-manuel medina

 

:good

I was a huge Casamayor fan in his prime and afterwards also. The only thing was that he'd lose really important ones against some of his best opposition, used to really **** me off

His lateral movement was great to just sit and watch, he'd weave a bit of a boxing spell over his opponents.

 

and for what is often described as a negative, defensive fighter he had some damn fine wars. he's a tough son of a ***** who was a brilliant amateur and had very good skills. but yeah, the castillo and corrales loses were rough and the freitas loss...well i never thought much of him. the kid diamond lose can be forgiven and the katsidis knockout was brilliant (though i still have to get around to watching the fight). very good career as a whole

 

Ike Quartey

 

a tricky one but i think he works. elite skills but lost all his biggest fights

 

Yeah, you summed it up very well there jorodz. What a great ko the Katsidis one was. I had him losing fair and square to Freitas, though there were some dodgy **** going on there. Allow me to nuthug

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Mosley

 

Jason Estrada
Luis Callazo
Carl Froch LOL (give it more time and he's in here)
Arturo Gatti
Micky Ward
Lovemore Ndou (at a time)
Razor Rudduck
Ray Mercer
The list goes on and on and on

 

umm, he's pretty elite:bbb

 

You're ******ed.

 

First off, Are we saying a fighter is skillfully elite or has he reached an elite level of the sport? Elite level as in having a belt and making a decent amout of defenses.

 

beat a prime oscar fair enough got beat at Light middle against winky and forrester but dominated lightweight and welterweight.

 

Wayne McCullough

 

I know calzaghe was underfeated but would u call him elite as the Super middleweight division was hard up for talent.