Fifteen Greatest Middleweights

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's been lots of discussion lately around this, my favorite, division. GGG, Ketchel, LaMotta, Monzon, Burley... Alright folks, let's get down to it. List your Top 15. I'm not giving any criteria besides "greatest".
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In No Order
    Tiger
    Jones Jnr
    Hopkins
    Monzon
    Ketchel
    Greb
    Hagler
    Burley
    Robinson
    Williams
    Walker
    Steele
    Lamotta
    Giardello
    Fitzsimmons
    Zale
    [One for luck]
    Something like that.
     
  3. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ngl there's only 1 list I give a damn about and that's @Ra's Al-Ghul's
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously the definitive one.
    Papp
    Scholz
    Plappz
    Polz
    Popplz
    Scholz
    Phapp
    Scholz
    Polz
    Schapp
    Spapp
    Chappz
    Splazz
    Zapp
    Pazzl
     
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  5. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    1. Greb
    2. Monzon
    3. Robinson
    4. Hagler
    5. Ketchel
    6. Fitzsimmons
    7. Langford
    8. Walker
    9. Burley
    10. Steele
    11. LaMotta
    12. Hopkins
    13. Tiger
    14. T Ryan
    15. Gibbons
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice list.

    Its is a shame there is no room for Graziano, Cerdan, Basillio, Fulmer...

    Crowded division.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good list I would have included Langford but don't think he did much at 160 then again the same could be said for a couple of my choices. Worrying about leaving Gibbons out though.
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not big on either Graziano or Fullmer and Basilio was better at 147lbs.Was Cerdan better than Thil, Dellanoit,or Villemain?
     
  9. Momus

    Momus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1) Greb
    2) Robinson
    3) Monzon
    4) Hagler
    5) Ketchel
    6) Hopkins
    7) Burley
    8) Fitzsimmons
    9) Steele
    10) Walker
    11) Ryan
    12) Williams
    13) Gibbons
    14) Tiger
    15) Toney

    11-15 was much harder than 1-10. Toney is very questionable, but I felt that there should be a place for someone from the stacked late 80s / early 90s era. Toney had the awful showing against Tiberi, but wins over Nunn and McCallum probably give him the best claim from that group.

    If Golovkin retired today I'd probably squeeze him in there on dominance and longevity, but his resume is so thin that a decisive loss to Canelo would put his record into a different perspective.
     
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  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    You wanted to know? I have made a top 70 few months ago, but forgot Abrahms in it (instead of Christofridis, but a bit higher between 65 and 70, ahead of Overlin).

    How about Henry Maske, Floyd Patterson and Chris Byrd?

    I was yesterday thinking about editing my list of the best punchers in Middleweight (as I had Jones a little bit too high, Valdez too low and forgot perhaps Carter).
     
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  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Graziano????
     
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  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Working on mine. Gibbons is a must IMO just figuring out where to place him
     
  13. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    You obviously dismissed Schenk and Dzemsky, which were historical!
     
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did I forget them!
     
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  15. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    Bert Schenk is the first German world champion in the division, had a comparable competition as Benn there. Dirk Dzemsky was like a German Chris Pyatt, with weaker opposition, but held the same title as Roy Jones Jr., defended this NBA title 5 times, which is the oldest sanctioning boxing body and he has possible the record of title defences.

    Sebastian Sylvester could be added too, but Khoren Gevor was greater in my opinion.
     

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