Fight Back On! Nevada to decide testing.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mr. Blobby, Dec 27, 2009.


  1. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Mayweather got PWNED.

    I can't believe Pacquiao will still fight this ***, after they tried to coerce him to sign the contract. At least Schaefer will get exposed for what they are lying ***s.
     
  2. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he has the right to question it, but to have the rules of testing for an entire sport to be changed just for his own agenda is bordering on absurdity. If he really believes Pacquiao is on PEDs then why is he even considering fighting him?
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mayweather's stance is, "I'll fight a clean Pacquiao."

    The public was and is calling for this fight......and if Mayweather is suspicious of Pacquiao's doping integrity.
    There are ways to find that out.......so he's certainly is within his rights to call for a legit method of testing.

    .....any clean fighter in such a high profile money making fight would welcome it ir he were clean.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats not what Mayweather is asking for........which is the reason why he is'nt asking the NSAC to do the testing. If the NSAC did the testing, then yes the rules would have to be changed for everyone.
    But if an external hired agency did the testing, the NSAC would not have to change their testing methods if they did'nt want too.......though it would be for the betterment of boxing if they did.
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, but I wish it was that simple. Imagine if after the Pac. vs. Cotto fight, Floyd just said. "I think he's on illegal sublements, therefor I'm not interested in fighting him." Let's face it, he'd be labled a chicken. So what's he got to lose by setting up a high demand like the one he did? Floyd can always back down, sign the fight with standard testing, and make a shitload of extra money from this circus his demand has created. It's all part of his brilliant gamesmanship and it's working very well for both fighters. The latest of Pauli M. vs. Pac. next fight is a brilliant countermove by team Pac. If another accuser, Pauli M., is man enough to take on Pac. without additional testing, why won't Floyd?
     
  6. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this sounds totally fair and hopefully both camps get their **** together and accept this.
     
  7. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    There are a few of potential responses. The first, and most obvious, is that he considers fighting him, despite his reservations about misconduct, because it is far and away the most lucrative bout in the sport. Everyone in the media and on the boards has been harping on this since Mayweather announced he was returning to face Marquez.

    Second, regarding the absurdity of the demands, Mayweather may have been employing standard negotiation tactics. If he wanted some significant beyond the standard NSAC procedure, he very well could have used the USADA as a means toward eliciting a compromise that still went above and beyond a few urine tests.

    Finally, while his demands were certainly well outside the norm for the sport as a whole, we should all recognize that this fight is not normal either. Given the stakes here, I can countenance both different and additional conditions than what even a HBO WCB fight would bring. Related to this, I find it somewhat comical that Pacquiao fans are pulling up prior quotes by Schaefer concerning additional testing for Mosley. Of course he's a "hypocrite." He's a promoter, and he will tow the line that he feels is in the best interest of his fighter. Arum has been doing it longer and more outrageously, in some instances, than him. Does this mean that one of them is objectively "worse" or more "dishonest" than the other? No, it means they're doing their mostly disingenuous jobs.
     
  8. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You still don't get it. For Mayweather to ask for an external agency to carry the test is basically him saying he don't trust the accuracy of the dope testing by the boxing federation.

    So why exactly is Mayweather fighting in a sport in which he don't believe is legitimate.

    why is he boxing if he thinks the testing is not good enough?

    He's never complained about drug testing before,. so in Mayweather's eyes, without olympic drug testing= thus equals all boxers on drugs. So the opponent he fought in the past that never had any olympic drug testing was on drugs too and he had no probs with that. In his book all the wussy fighters he handpicked was on it. so it's fine for all boxers to be on drugs except Pacquiao hahaha.
     
  9. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Damn, stop it, just stop it. PWNAGE
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent.

    Or as GBP might say: "If it's good enough for Shane Mosley, it's good enough for Manny Pacquiao"

    :lol:
     
  11. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    Couldn't this be due to the Mayweather's simply not taking the time to consider the issue? The family is hilariously lampooned as moronic by most of the boxing community. It's not unthinkable that until Floyd, Sr. began hurling accusations, baseless or not, that it didn't really occur to any of them to think about NSAC being inadequate.

    I'm not sure if that has any merit, but it came to me in reading many of these responses.
     
  12. box247

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  13. Nay_Sayer

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    I can certainly understand where you're coming from - However;

    With all the scandals that have been going down surrounding big fights that have happened under the nose of the NSAC - most notably Mosley de la Hoya [Balcogate] and Mosley Margarito [Plastergate] - I believe the NSAC has an even greater interest in making sure that what could be the biggest fight in our lifetime comes off without any such scandals. With all the suspicion about Pacquiao and the KNOWN juicing issue present in professional sports - I think it's a no-brainer that the NSAC are going to do above and beyond whatever is necessary to ensure that eveything in on the level.

    I think Mayweather's demands for Olympic style testing has really put the focus on how uesless the NSAC's testing policies have been.
     
  14. Uncle Rico

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  15. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah and you got to wonder why he's been fighting so many years knowing the testing policies were useless, and has not demanded Olympic style testing once until now. hmmm strange that isn't it?