Fight in the US,why?!?!?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by English Nutter, Sep 5, 2007.


  1. English Nutter

    English Nutter Member Full Member

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    I have noticed a few people on here(all yanks)say that non-american fighters need to fight in the US to gain respect from you lot.Why is this? And why isn't it the other way round,your bhop's,winky's,taylor's all have respect over here yet have hardly(if any)fought outside America.
    Are you lot just blind to anything non-yank or just plain jealous.
    IMO just jealous cos Hatton's come over here an fought and look how much respect he's got!!!:think
     
  2. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    no different from calzaghe fighting in manchester, incase you don't know the welsh and english don't really get on.
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Because Americans need every possible advantage in every sport. We generally give it to them because if we didn't they'd stomp their feet and cry. And we know how embarrassing that can be. :good
     
  4. He Hate Me

    He Hate Me Active Member Full Member

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    This thread belongs in the garbage.
     
  5. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I think it's great what Calzaghe does (ok, it'd be nice if he fought around Europe more often). I'm sure he really gives a **** that neither Brad nor Todd from Keokuk, Iowa know who he is. :yep
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The biggest fights tend to happen where the biggest money is USA. Fighters who ONLY fight in the UK, not matter how good they are (Calzaghe) tend to bump up against WBO level competition.

    Nice avatar, is that Lucy Pinder? She looks great there.
     
  7. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Las Vegas= Mecca of Boxing

    Hatton and Lennox Lewis understand the prestige of fighting in
    Vegas. I have the upmost respect for Hatton for knowing that for you to solidify your legacy in boxing, Vegas is the place to do it. For some reason the guy from Wales did not get that memo:huh
     
  8. grayggr

    grayggr Active Member Full Member

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    I agree you do not have to fight in the US to prove yourself.

    However, the money and recent boxing history has mostly taken place in Vegas/NYC etc. In order to secure TV money and the big fights it usually has to be done in the States.

    There is an argument to say Hatton and Calzaghe do not need to fight in the States as they can sell out huge arenas here and generate huge receipts here. However as the above poster noted, to many boxers it is the pinnacle of their career to fight in Vegas, and for eg, to someone like Hatton this is a big draw.

    I do think HAtton will have a couple more fights back here in Blighty though, and sell out 40,000+ stadia. Who knows 80,000+ at Wembley if he can pull the true underdog story and beat Mayweather in Vegas first.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Very true, there's a great tradition of great fighters "touring" Europe (Robinson came over here to fight) once they hit the title and fighters who are having trouble getting good pay days coming to Europe/elsewhere to fight. That was the case with Winky if i'm not mistaken?
     
  10. grayggr

    grayggr Active Member Full Member

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    Without generally wanting to stoke the UK v US argument (which is tiresome), to be fair countries like the UK, Mexico, Phillipines, Cuba etc have a good ratio of boxers to population when compared to the US I would imagine.
     
  11. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It can often make financial success to fight in the US.
    It's also possibly easier to make big fights happen if you have american exposure.
    Having said that there is sometimes a knee jerk reaction if a champ dosen't fight in the US against fighters known over there then he's automatically a protected fighter. Who you fight is far more important than where.
     
  12. ThePlugInBabies

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    :roll:

    calzaghe
    hatton
    haye
    woods
    witter
    arthur
    maccarinelli
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm not entirely convinced that Arthur and Maccarinelli belong on that list, and we're about to find out about Haye, but okay.
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Yeah, bet he was really jealous of Lloyd Honeyghan. Winning one of the upsets of the decade- in the afternoon where punters were at tables eating meals. Damn, Joe's missing out there. :yep
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Money and legacy.

    By the way, Hatton won't be on enemy territory when he takes on Mayweather. The British fans will be noiser and more supportive no matter where the fight is, you know?