Fight in the US,why?!?!?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by English Nutter, Sep 5, 2007.


  1. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather will not have a hometown advantage. Did you see his fight with Delahoya? Many fighters make their home in Vegas.
     
  2. ThePlugInBabies

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    they are still two decent fighters who can improve and challenge for the straps, haye is at an extremely exciting point in his career, the boy is extremely gifted and has learnt from past mistakes. i was just pointing out we have more than just one/two good fighters, and then a bunch of eurotrash.
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Legacy? Many critics here regard Calzaghe as one of our best ever. Not fighting in US has done him no harm at all. I do actually prefer it when our fighters do travel to US but if they don't give a toss themselves...
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Yeah, that's true. If the roles were reversed a total of about three Yanks would make the trip to support Floyd. :lol:
     
  5. McGrain

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    Yeah, I regard him that way too. But there's a long list of top fighters (p4p guys) that Cal missed out on by staying home. If he'd have done a Hatton he could have got Hopkins, Jones, Wright, Tarver...probably he'd have beaten them too, he'd have been there or there abouts.

    This is a bit flipant, but imagine a situation where Calzaghe has people who actively chase fights with the best whatever the cirumstances. If he'd have got Jones the night Tarver did he'd have won that one and been writing his own cheques ever since, not to mention rated as p4p #1 or #2.

    Of course, he could have lost to Jones, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnon, Woods (these last two could have happened at home of course) and been retired, but we'll never know now and that seems a shame.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It would be more than that upward of thirty - all members of Mayweather's entourage.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah.
     
  8. English Nutter

    English Nutter Member Full Member

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    Hmmmm:think ,that's why Kessler-Calzaghe is set to break records for an attendence at a boxing match.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I don't blame Hopkins. He tried it once and was put on his hoop twice. :yep
     
  10. nervousxtian

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    Has done no harm to him? Bull****.

    You ****ers were talking **** about Joe before the Lacy fight, he wins one fight and now he's your national treasure, how soon you forget.

    If Joe came to the states, and won he'd have the power to bring people back to his home country, but he has chosen not too.

    It's why he never got the really big fights, he wasn't willing to budge, when you're not the bigger name, you have to travel, he never has, it's hurt his reputation.

    It's why he was WBO for so long. WBO. Not even a legit belt.
     
  11. Korn_06

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    Well most logic goes toward since the best money is in the US the - if the eurobums were good enough then you would box in the US. This is of course to some extent true. But another fact is the easies fight to get a fight in the US for a Euro is if you are not really considered a threat. Because if you are a real threat then the big american names will not fight you because of the fighter is still not known in the US and therefore will not get enough credit for the win and too high risk. This again means that the money for the Euro fighter will not be better probably worse in than what he can get for a fight in Europe.

    Often when a euro fighter comes to the US it is in an atemt to make a comeback and often after they have been in their primes.

    Just to mention last year danish fighter Thomas Damgaard fought Gatti, this was like a one shot for Damgaard he had already retired and it was 5 years after his prime. In his Prime no way he could get a fight in the US that would pay nearly what he could make in Europe.
     
  12. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also a Euro fighter has to be marketable to make it worthwhile fighting in the states. Can't exactly imagine HBO clamouring to offer Junior Witter a juicy contract.
     
  13. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's be honest here. The British fans are amongst the most rabidly vocal, adoring to their heroes, and hostile to their enemies. Calzaghe fighting in front of his fans in Cardiff is no where near the same as Mayweather fighting in front of a crowd in New York or Vegas.

    Mayweather and Hopkins don't enjoy anything near the zealous worship that the British fans heap on their stars. US fans don't exhibit anything near the unanimity that the British fans do. Mayweather even seems to go out of his way to incite hatred within his own borders, relishing in playing the villian.

    PPV also plays a far more bigger role in US boxing. I think part of the profile of the US boxing fan is an almost anti-social makeup. They'd rather stay home in the comfy confines of their sports cave with their 50 inch LCD and surround sound than deal with live attendance.

    If you get into the financial aspect of why a fighter from across the pond benefits from fighting in the US it gets very easy to make an argument for fighting stateside. The foreign fans rabidity will make many travel for a vacation in Vegas and those that don't only add to the huge PPV mix so the live gate argument is bogus.

    And I will add that I have tremendous respect for Hatton's willingness to fight abroad. He earned my respect and I believe he greatly enhanced his legacy.
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  15. ThePlugInBabies

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    was this before or after you started backing lacy after he claimed he was part english? :huh