Fight is officially over!!!!Arum says no fight

B-Hop is on ****ING ROIDS. Look at him. He is 44 years old and beat a 26 year old top fighter.

TAKE THE TEST B-HOP.

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It's kind of odd that some people still think the "Mayweather posturing" or "Pac's Principals" statements are legitimate or logical. Before this became a national story and was still just a contractual dispute this could have been used as an agrument in Pac's favor, but now that this has become a matter of public opinion and a situation threatening Pac's reputation and accomplishments these argument are illogical. If Pac was indeed initally declining the testing to stick to his prinicpals then you would have to assume he is a man who believes in honor and cares about his reputation. Both are being threatened and questioned and he has the ability, by agreeing to the testing, to put them all to rest and defend his honor and acomplishments.

I am not saying I think Pac is using illegal substances or is a cheater, but it seems odd that there are these restrictions being placed on the manner in which he is argeeing to be tested. And for those of you who agrue he shouldn't have to give in to Floyd's demands have you stopped to listen to yourself defend weak testing policies? The arguement of where the acusations derived from is ridiculous. It doesn't matter who made them, where they were started, how long ago they were made, or the reasoning behind them. All that matters is there was a request for stricter testing policies. Stricter testing policies help provide a clear more legit outcome. This is the biggest fight in boxing in a very long time and for a sport that has had its history of questionable outcomes and fool play it only makes sense to have a stricter policy to alleviate the accusations that could be made by the mainstream audience who are sure to watch. There could irreconcilable harm done to the sport by having a positive test afterwards.

 

the guy is agreeing to testing, just not with the way they want to. i can't see the future, so i can't tell you what results will be nor harm it will do to the sport....but neither are you.

at this moment, there are no reason or facts to support the baseless rumors that Pac is dirty. this all started from a crack-head looking for an excuse or to debase Pac.

again, if Pac ever fails a test i will be one of his harshest critics and WILL chastise him. but until that happens, i will be a fair individual who will not get swayed by rumors or the hype of mainstream media. show me evidence and facts, otherwise keep it to yourself.

i just wish that everyone involved in this fight to cut this sh!t out and get the fight done. right now, i believe both fighters are clean and ready to fight....IF THEY WANT TO.

 

The FRAUD RUNNERS got OFF the HOOK! The JR. retains his 0 without fighting...UNBELIEVABLE!. :hat

 

You clearly didnt understand my post. I never said Pac was dirty, nor did I say there were any facts to support that theory. What I said was now that this is an international story that is being held in the court of public opinion it has become more than a matter of Mayweather playing mind games or Pac's supersitions and mind games. If pac refuses the testing he will more than likely be judged as a cheater in the court of public opinion, and if you are someone who believes pac has made this decision about the testing based on his prinicpals than you would have to agree it would behoove Pac to now agree to the testing as he is obviously someone who cares about his reputation and his honor which is now in question. It would be illogical to think otherwise.

The agrument degrading the issue because of where it originated in moronic. It doesn't matter if it started because of a crazy old trainer with a clear bias or thread that started on ESB, the fact of the matter is there is now a international story that is threatening Pac's honor, his reputation, his pockets, and potentially putting a cloud over his accomplishments. He has the abilty to clear the air by just agreeing to the testing. Also no matter where this all originated you as a person need to really question your prinicpals when you start to argue against stricter drug testing policies. Put your affiliations/associations aside a take a look at whats really happening. This is the first step in the direction of stricter drug testing in boxing. Every boxing fan in the world should be happy about it.

People please remember that Jose Consaco, a questionable character to say the least, and his book started the landslide that was thebaseball doping scandal. The source of the accusation doesn't matter.

 

As Random drug testing ever been used in boxing or is it just mind games whipped up by floyd because he wants to get under the skin of pac. I mean he could be tested after the fight because drugs will always leave a trace.

 

Are you joking? The source of the accusation absolutely matters when it comes whether or not they are in a position to know. Canseco was in a position to know about roids in baseball. Mayweather senior is not in a position to know anything about whether pac is or is not taking illegal substances. He's just a junkie spreading bull**** rumors of his own making.

 

And I happen to think that's exactly why Pac shouldn't cave in to the equivalent of negotiation terrorism. The Mayweathers are saying, "You don't do exactly as we want, when we want, we'll keep telling the world you're on steroids to ruin your reputation." It's blackmail is what it is.

There is no competitive reason for Pac to do more than he's agreed to, but the Mayweathers refuse to negotiate. That Pac has attempted to compromise hasn't stopped the Mayweathers from either (or both) of 1) looking for a way out of the fight while not looking guilty or 2) looking for a way to disrupt Manny's training camp because there's no limit on the frequency or guidelines on the time random testing can occur. There's nothing stopping them from testing Manny 10 times and Floyd once, or testing Manny at 3 AM. Why should an innocent fighter make his training camp any harder than it has to be because some people like to jump to conclusions? It's a lose/lose scenario for Pacquiao.

 

FIRST - you clearly did not understand my post either. i thought i made it obvious that i have nothing against any kind of testing.

SECOND - "Pac agreed to testing, but the PBF camp kept changing their demands about it". would you let anyone dictate terms of your contract by the whim of the opposite party? if so, then maybe that is your character and the way you do business...it certainly isn't mine.

THIRD - you should not question my principles because it is clear and fair...prove it with facts and evidence, everyone is innocent until proven guilty (we are still in the USA right?) maybe you should look in the mirror and think about yours.

one other thing, court of public opinion? i know what you are getting to, but it has nothing to do with my statement, which is (i don't know how clearer i can be on this) show be the facts and evidence.

 

Let them both shoot up roids, Who gives a **** just FIGHT.

 

The testing would be done by the Anti-Doping Agency who has no bias in the matter, so it's kinda of a stretch to think they would unfairly disrupt Manny's camp without doing the same to Floyds. Also as posted in another thread there is a competitive reason for the testing being requested... the testing Manny and arum are willing to agree to is ineffective.

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If the cycles are timed properly you can avoid a positive test if you are using illegal drugs. A test immediately before and after the fight honestly does very little, because the substance will most likely already be out of your system. Guys will start their cycles during training, and depending on which PEDs you use they can be out of your system in a matter of days, weeks, months, or up to a year and a half from what I've read.

 

I don't believe any of them. I think the Pacquiaos and the Mayweathers are phonies. Pac is a steroid user and floyd is a coward. They are all full of shite. This is the biggest fight in history, man. Now they are gonna call it off to a random blood test? B.s. Pacman is scared of needles, b.s. Pacman is a fraud and chicken mayweather has got no heart. They are both a disgrace to this wonderful sport because they are denying us fans the biggest fight of the century. If it wasn't for us, these 2 clowns wouldn't be driving mercedes and have a summer house by the beach.

 

i am ok with this statement, but if the concern is about a fighter juicing to have an advantage in the fight...then what is wrong with testing them after the fight on fight-night? the results should tell you if a fighter had PEDs in his system during the fight.

i am not an expert but if you want to be sure that the fighters are clean in the ring then, do it right after the fight (after the 12th round or a knockout). this will not give them a chance to "flush" it out of their system.