Fight Night Weights Should Be MANDATORY...

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like the 30 day weigh ins and 10 lb cut off

    actually I wonder if am same day would be better. weigh in at 7 or 8 am fight at 9-10 PM to me is reasonable
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    That's the problem, not everyone can cut weight the same way.

    Just like some guys are short but heavy(Canelo). And then there are guys like Paul Williams.

    IBF has/had the right idea with the second day weigh in.
     
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  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    Shouldn't you be liking CEJ's latest instagram post rather than bothering people who want to talk boxing?
     
  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Make weight or don't. Pretty simple
     
  5. Crixus139

    Crixus139 Member Full Member

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    I agree but i guess this can only be for big fights? a lot of fights get made on shorter notice than 30 days
     
  6. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    Completely agree because the real pros will comply. The cheaters won't. But the real reason this will never be applied going forward is due to TV contracts, i.e. money. What are the powers-that-be going to do if on the day of the fight a fighter fails the weigh-in? It would be a financial disaster. But I agree with you completely. It should be instated and enforced.
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    When I compiled a list of the measurements for titlists pre and post same day weigh ins change everyone matched up with the division two weights higher. Lightweights became welters and welterweights became middles. It doesn't make sense to compare the same division of fighters from now with the previous eras because they wouldn't be the same class.
     
  8. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Javier Fortuna and Sharif Bogere were both bigger than Pacquiao on fight night... I think it was 151 and 153.
     
  9. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    The right idea yes but it's too vague.
    The 10lb rehydration clause is world's apart for flywe8ghts and cruisers.
    It should be a % of bodyweight
     
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    It could be optimized like they do with gloves.

    Imo there should be a weight pass. When you apply for a license, you also apply for a weight class. They measure your body fat and hydration during the process.

    The 30, 14 and 7 day weigh ins are also a great idea(hydration levels should also be monitored). Add to that the morning of the fight weigh in and it's a damn solid system.
     
  11. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    I'm just saying that FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHTS DISCLOSURE should be mandatory. It would be very helpful to have numerical data to support studies in weight advantages. Maybe something like Gatti-Gamache doesn't happen.

    Gamache was 145. Gatti was 160.
     
  12. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    It's hard to find the perfect system. I've known fighters who have dehydrated for the 30, 14 and 7 day weighs
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd be in favor of that.

    I don't see the point in fight night weigh-ins, since the official weigh-in happens the day before. Ergo, fight night weights are irrelevant (barring a contract stipulation in certain situations).

    The real solution is exactly as you stated - same day weigh-ins.
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    The key is to measure body fat and hydration levels. Those windows can set of alarms if a fighter looses too much weight too suddenly. And if you have a weight pass, it will force a fighter to focus more on their weight.
     
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  15. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't classify them as irrelevant. If two MW's are fighting, and on weighs 164, the other 172, fans should know.
     
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