Fight of the Fortnight #5: Cuban Controversy

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    All seeing, all knowing...
     
  2. George Crowcroft

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    I've heard he's in a bad way. Apparently life's wonders have caught up with him. I hope not though, bless him.
     
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    Since I already scored it, I'll cheat.:D


    Round 1 Lara 10-9
    Round 2 Lara 10-9
    Round 3 Lara 10-9
    Round 4 Lara 10-9, close
    Round 5 Lara 10-9, close
    Round 6 Alvarez 10-9
    Round 7 Alvarez 10-9
    Round 8 Alvarez 10-9
    Round 9 Alvarez 10-9
    Round 10 Lara 10-9
    Round 11 Alvarez 10-9, close
    Round 12 Lara 10-9

    115-113 Lara
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    It's fine, I did the same.

    **** watching that ****e again. My notes had "DO NOT RECOMMEND* at the bottom of it. :lol:

    You catch the Porter fight?
     
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    Yeah, I did the RBR for that one as well.

    Round 1 Porter 10-9
    Round 2 Porter 10-9
    Round 3 Porter 10-9, close
    Round 4 Ugas 10-9
    Round 5 Porter 10-9
    Round 6 Porter 10-9
    Round 7 Ugas 10-9
    Round 8 Ugas 10-9, close
    Round 9 Porter 10-9
    Round 10 Porter 10-9
    Round 11 Ugas 10-9
    Round 12 Ugas 10-9

    115-113 Porter

    114-114 is fine.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    Emile Griffith SD10 Luis Rodriguez
    1960-12-17, None Title WW Fight
    Official Scores: 4-5, 5-4, 6-4

    Love Rodriguez, quite fond of Griffth too as it happens so I'm looking forward to revisiting this one. Iirc it was a beautiful boxing match with some entertaining infighting.

    Rd. EG : LR
    1. 10 : 9
    2. 9 : 10
    3. 10 : 9
    4. 9 : 10
    5. 9 : 10 (47-48)
    6. 10 : 10
    7. 9 : 10
    8. 9 : 10
    9. 10 : 9
    10. 9 : 10 (94-97)
     
  7. ChrisJS

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    Much as I love El Feo the Griffith fights I just find pretty rough to watch. Griffith just had a habit of doing that as Rodriguez’s other fights were a ton of fun. Even the one-sided hammerings.

    I think Rodriguez won all four. The gap got bigger from fight I to fight III which was the worst decision. Fight IV should have also been a clear win for Rodriguez.
     
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    Burt is an awesome guy. Encyclopedic knowledge and very down to earth and respectful.
     
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    Have you got the cards for the others? You said you've done them.
     
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    • Rodríguez vs. Griffith I - my card, IIRC, adhered to a large minority contemporary viewpoint that Griffith edged it narrowly (meaning he would ultimately go 4-0 against El Feo, but in a far more competitive rivalry than it may sound. :sisi1)
    • Casamayor vs. Castillo - this was a couple of years before my join date on here, but I provided my scoring on the main page (commenting on the article previewing the fight, which is what I did before joining the forums)...pretty certain I agreed with the overruled official judge Carol Castellano's score, 115-113 El Cepillo.
    • Legra vs. Famechon - 8-7 JPF
    • Lara vs. Canelo -
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    • Ugas vs. Porter - draw
     
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    ...so, in George's six OP fights, I had Team Cuba going 2-4, with only Casamayor and Lara picking up W's. :thumbsup:

    (González, Rodríguez and Legra defeated on my cards by the narrowest of possible margins, and Ugás - whom I loathe, unlike his five listed compatriots - managing to hold Porter even closer, but not quite meriting cries of robbery)
     
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    Bump. Just scored Graham vs Gavilan. I'll write a post tomorrow.
     
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    Kid Gavilan vs Billy Graham III

    Gavilan - Graham

    R1: 10 - 9
    What a class opener! Gavilan the aggressor and uppping the work rate on Graham.
    R2: 10 - 9
    Gavilan trying to pour it on. Sneaky headbutt from Graham near the end then. Well timed :D
    R3: 10 - 10
    My God this is getting close! Supreme ability.
    R4: 9 - 10
    Masterful Boxing.
    R5: 10 - 9
    Very close action, and possibly a swing round.
    R6: 9 - 10
    Lots of glancing work due to the skill level. Graham wins on his crisp inside work, and is starting to get the jab down.
    R7: 10 - 10
    Very close. Graham with the jab and lead, Gavilan working more.
    R8: 10 - 9
    Gavilan on the jab now; responding with right counters.
    R9: 9 - 10
    Great action again. Billy more compact.
    R10: 9 - 10
    Graham rapier sharp this round.
    R11: 10 - 9
    Very close again!
    R12: 9 - 10
    Graham with the masterful jab and infighting. He has also made the Keed really respect his power now.
    R13: 9 - 10
    Graham again more compact and effective with his work.
    R14: 9 - 10
    Close. Graham's short hooks take this. Great action.
    R15: 9 - 10
    Great finale!

    TOTAL: 145 - 142 GRAHAM

    Notes:
    • Magnificent, magnificent bout. ATG / Legendary skills is truly an appropriate term here, especially for the criminally forgotten Graham (shout out to @red cobra for being the original appreciator and introducer of Graham for me a long while back!)
    • A thinking mans fight, but not boring, with plenty of high class action.
    • Graham ultimately won on being the more compact, crisp fighter, especially with his inside work. Gavilan was hitting shoulder and elbows all night.
    • Second time watching this, first time scoring. Renowned by hard-cores for it's perceived 'scoring difficulty', it definitely lives up to it IMO.
     
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