FIGHT OF THE WEEK 1- Duran vs Barkley

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just curious if anyone has info on the punchstats for this fight?

    also I can’t seem to locate a RBR of the judges cards (sometimes I can sometimes I can’t lol) but I would love to see there cards especially the judge who scored for Barkley. If you find one please post a link
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Do they need to be all distance fights?
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMO preferably but if you have any ideas for ones to do shoot me some recs. I don’t see a reason why a 8-15 rd fight w/ a stoppage can’t be considered. I am trying to get away from double and triple headers because it’s hard to get multiple guys to score 1 fight a week let alone 2/3.

    I am open to some stoppage fights especially if it will generate more interest and participation.

    edit: now that I think on it yeah why not lol
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah, cool. My idea - which you half shot down, accidentally of course - was to give you a group of fights that all have a similar theme (like what I did in FOTF) and then we do those. What I had in mind was the Harding-Andries trilogy, the two Adamek-Briggs fights or Williams-Sosa I. But I suppose the workaround would be that of all the fights I list, you pick your favourite or the one you think is the hardest to score.
     
  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how about not necessarily shooting it down (I love the Harding-Andries trilogy and already have the Adamek Briggs fights in mind) what about looking at the Harding Andries series 1 fight at a time in June July September 1 was June 2 Was July 3 was September...is that of interest or would you need them 3 weeks in succession (or a triple header?)?
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    The idea I had was to do all six at once back when I was doing FOTF, but I thought you could adapt it here to do the two Williams-Sosa fights at once, and then the Harding-Andries trilogy and so on. But if you wanna do one a week, I'm cool with that as well.

    I just thought of them as a group, so listed them as a group.
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Keep these cards coming. I am going to start week 2 early just so next week I can start launching them on Mondays and ending on Sundays (although they never really need to end) with scorecard comparisons.
     
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  8. Jel

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    I would suggest keeping it to one fight a week (themed as you have already described it @PhillyPhan69 - a fight from that week in the past). It should be easier to get people to do it that way. Too many fights in one go and people will lose interest or not keep up. If it's a fight in a trilogy and someone is inspired to watch the other fights off the back of it, then that's fine but I wouldn't make it a requirement. Those are my thoughts anyway.

    And I'll have a look at some possible fights and PM you, Philly.
     
  9. Pat M

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    Finally got around to scoring this one. I had it 7-4-1 for Barkley in rounds and 115-113 for Barkley in scoring. I'm not good at scoring fights, to me the first round was EVEN, IB was much busier and more effective for most of the round, but Duran landed a big punch toward the end of the round. Then I had IB winning 2,3,4,5,6,8,12, and RD winning 7,9,10,11 (2 points). A lot of rounds were close, but to me, IB was busier most of the time. Just checked my card from 3 years ago, similar, I gave RD the first round that time and IB the 7th.

    A close fight and both fighters fought hard. I tried to make sure that I wasn't giving RD "style" points for being smaller, a lot of rounds could have gone either way, I wouldn't want to be a judge.
     
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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK, here we go.

    Iran Barkley v Roberto Duran

    Round 1: 10-9 Barkley
    Round 2: 10-9 Barkley
    Round 3: 10-10 Even
    Round 4: 10-9 Barkley
    Round 5: 10-9 Barkley
    Round 6: 10-9 Duran
    Round 7: 10-10 Even
    Round 8: 10-9 Barkley
    Round 9: 10-9 Duran
    Round 10: 10-9 Duran
    Round 11: 10-8 Duran (scores a knockdown)
    Round 12: 10-10 Even

    Total: 115-115 Draw (actual scores: 116-113 Barkley and 118-112, 116-112 both for Duran)

    This was soooo close. So many rounds fought at such a tight level. The first time I saw it live I felt Duran took the decision in a close fight, but today I recognize this fight as razor close, but a damn good fight.
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks guys! I appreciate the perspective of a Barkley and a draw card. I think this fight was close enough to warrant an SD and a variety of perspectives.
     
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  12. Pat M

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    I think the scores were closer this time than the last time we scored it? The first 6 rounds were competitive, but Barkley could have won them all, then Duran came on strong for the last 6, but again, Barkley was competitive and could have won any of them except the 11th. The knockdown made it really close. I'd like to know how Clancy had it scored, he was at ringside and sometimes they look different from ringside, but Bernstein mentioned to Clancy a few times that Clancy had Barkley well ahead. It would be interesting to see how he scored it after Duran turned things around.
     
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  13. roughdiamond

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    Maybe if I get the time Philly, but I've seen this fight so many times, since (like many other posters) it's one of my favs. I'm focusing on fighters I've neglected at the moment.
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

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    1 more day to get your cards in
     
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  15. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks to all who shared comments and to those who participated with new cards.

    our 6 new cards rendered a split decision that mirrored the real life split decision.
    4-1-1 in favor of Duran.
    Duran cards:
    @PhillyPhan69 115-113
    @Jel 115-113
    @George Crowcroft 115-112
    @Salty Dog 114-113

    Barkley cards
    @Pat M 115-113

    Draw cards
    @scartissue 115-115

    our consensus cards show 5 unanimous rounds and 7 diverse difficult and divided rounds showing that a verdict for either guy is fair and reasonable.

    RBR consensus
    1 Duran 4-1-1
    2 Barkley 6-0
    3 Barkley 3-2-1
    4 Draw 2-2-2
    5 Barkley 5-1
    6 Draw 3-3
    7 Barkley 4-1-1
    8 Barkley 6-0
    9 Duran 6-0
    10 Duran 6-0
    11 Duran (10-8) 6-0
    12 Barkley 3-2-1

    our consensus reveals a surprising victory for Barkley 6 rounds to 4 rounds with 2 even and 1 10-8 round for Duran leading to a consensus victory for Barkley 115-114

    this was a fun fight! Thanks again to all