FIGHT OF THE WEEK 10- James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember Lampley saying punch stats were lopsided for Toney in that round. And that was the round Toney hurt Jirov with the uppercut mid round. maybe rewatch the round. I agree with you on the 11th round although it was kinda close but not the 10th to me
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not with the 10 pt must system?
    It should be 115-114 (I didn’t realize you called 8 an even round but since you scored it 9-9 it is a Jirov round- an even round would equal 10-9 w/the deduction). Not trying to argue just getting the cards tabulated for Monday
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Yeah you're right. Forgot to add the the even rounds. But isn't it 116-114 because Jirov got dropped?
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here my scorecard:
    R1: Jirov
    R2: Jirov
    R3: Toney
    R4: Jirov
    R5: Even
    R6: Toney
    R7: Toney
    R8: Jirov (9-9 due to point deduction)
    R9: Jirov
    R10: Toney
    R11: Toney
    R12: Toney (10-8)

    115-112 Toney
     
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  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is always a fun fight to revisit. Jirov bringing the activity and forcing the action, Toney being patient, calm and composer and landing better, cleaner. I am not much of a Toney fan but this (and the McCallum fights) is among my favorites.

    1 Jirov
    2 Jirov
    3 Toney
    4 Jirov
    5 Toney
    6 Toney
    7 Toney
    8 Jirov (9-9)
    9 Toney
    10 Toney
    11 Toney
    12 Toney (10-8)

    Toney 116-110
     
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  7. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    James Toney v Vassiliy Jirov

    Great fight that was tough to score and a gruelling fight. Jirov tried to overwhelm Toney with volume but Toney showed impressive conditioning to get stronger over the second half of the fight. The point deduction in the 8th and the KD in the final round were key factors but Toney's superior accuracy was clear throughout.

    One of the best cruiserweight fights I've seen.

    1 10-10 (good opening round - could have gone either way. The tone is already set. Volume from Jirov, sharp countering from Toney)
    2 9-10 (Jirov busier and landing more. Toney on the ropes but not throwing enough)
    3 9-10 (close. Jirov lucky not to have a point deducted)
    4 10-9 (close again)
    5 9-10
    6 10-9
    7 10-9
    8 9-9 (point deduction against Jirov, who comes back well to take the round)
    9 10-9
    10 10-9
    11 10-9 (close)
    12 10-8 (incredible ending. Jirov rocked and then dropped)

    Toney 116-112 Jirov
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry for the delay in doing this I was out of town and didn’t have the inclination to do this.

    Thanks to all who participated, and this exciting fight yielded 8 scorecards (the most so far) and some good feedback.

    I do find it interesting that there was little consensus agreement on each round w/only 2 unanimous rounds on our cards 2 for Jirov and 12 for Toney leaving us divided on 10 rounds....showing that this fight could be scored in a variety of ways.

    Toney Cards
    @88Chris05 116-110
    @Showstopper97 115-114
    @George Crowcroft 116-110
    @THE BLADE 2 115-112
    @PhillyPhan69 116-110
    @Jel 116-112

    Jirov cards
    @Pat M 115-112

    Draw cards
    @scartissue 114-114

    with our widest range in scoring so far:
    George/Chris/Philly 116-110 Toney
    Pat 115-112 Jirov
    For a possible 9 pt. Swing

    RBR consensus
    1 Jirov 3-2-3
    2 Jirov 8-0
    3 Toney 6-2
    4 Even 4-4-0
    5 Jirov 4-2-2
    6 Toney 4-3-1
    7 Toney 6-0-2
    8 Jirov 7-1 (9-9 with deduction)
    9 Jirov 5-3
    10 Toney 7-1
    11 Toney 5-3
    12 Toney 8-0 (10-8)

    for a consensus James Toney victory 115-112

    Thanks to all who participated
     
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  9. 88Chris05

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    Great stuff @PhillyPhan69. Appreciate all the work you put in for these kind of threads. Very interesting to see it broken down like that.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

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    Me, you and Philly all had the correct cards too. :smoking:
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    facts
     
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  12. MR_TUT

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    Like most CWs he just wanted some cash