Fighter from the 60's

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Duranium, Aug 18, 2010.


  1. Duranium

    Duranium Member Full Member

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    Gaylord Barnes, a name i came across on boxrec.

    His record is
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    Ive never heard of Gaylord Barnes? Anyone else? Confusing record...is he just a jobber, a tough one at that? Or was he just very inconsistent nad capable of pulling out a performance on his best nights(ie. distance with Robinson, defeating two guys on big winning streaks)

    Does anyone know anything about this Gaylord, Barnes?
     
  2. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    edit, i wont be crual.
     
  3. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cases like this are legion in boxing.

    Sometimes, it's all about management, connections, matchmaking, proper development and promotion. David Capo was
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    . Anybody who saw his first career win over 8-0-0 1976 Olympic hero Leo Randolph (in just David's second professional match), or his ten round barn burner with the then up and coming Freddie Roach on an early ESPN main event, knows he was vastly superior to what his dismal record would suggest. No power, but tremendous speed, stamina and energy. (One writer likened his style against Randolph to that of "an epileptic road runner.")

    Padded records work both ways. Capo, a decorated amateur, went the distance twice with LaPorte, also the limit with a young Azumah Nelson and Julian Solis. Nine of his opponents were undefeated. Plenty of dismal records were unfairly stacked against competitors with great potential who were far more talented than will ever be known.

    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=002221&cat=boxer

    What separates Capo from countless others is that the Randolph and Roach fights obtained wide viewership and exposure. Concerning an obscurity like Barnes, footage of him against Griffith, Collins, Sr., SRR, Bahama or Archer would be most useful in making a more accurate assessment. Sometimes, the map is not the territory, and in instances like Barnes and Capo, a record can be a most misleading device when relied upon alone.

    Foreman, Liston and Chuvalo all said that big Mel Turnbow was one of the hardest punching heavyweights of his era. Jimmy Ellis supposedly injured Ali's ribs during training for Muhammad's rematch with Liston. Sonny rejected the report of this because he'd never known Ellis to hit that hard. When the two of them talked about that episode years later, Liston told Ali that he would have believed the story if Turnbow had been identified as the sparring mate responsible. During his competitive career though, Mel had next to nothing to show for all his purported power aside from a knockdown of Cleveland Williams.