Fighter of the decade?

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Not necessarily the best.
    Totally subjective of course, what are your picks?
    1880's John L Sullivan
    Pretty much revilitalised boxing, which had not been doing well, one of the most feared champions ever. There were heavyweight champions before John L, but there's good reason the lineage normall goes back to him.
    1890's Bob Fitzsimmons
    Demolished the legendary Jack Dempsey, before becoming the heavyweight champion, twice, and KOing Corbett. The way he demolished opponents was really quite special.
    1900's Jack Johnson
    Established himself as an ATG heavyweight beating the best black, and then white boxers, crashing through the colour bar. He was a great boxer, but the way he defied the culture seals him as the pick for me.
    1910's Sam Langford
    Another boxer who defied weight, perhaps even moreso than Bob Fitzsimmons. His KO's of top fighters across weightclasses, across over 100 fights seals him as my pick.
    1920's Harry Greb
    It was hard to pick between the P4P great Greb, and the Heavyweight phenom Dempsey. In the end though Greb's willingness to fight anyone sealed it, over a champion, who while great, failed to beat the top contenders through his reign.
    1930's Henry Armstrong
    This was another hard pick between the P4P great, and the legendary heavyweight. But featherweight winning a welterweight title, and setting the record for defences, is just too crazy to pick against.
    1940's Joe Louis
    Joe Louis may have narrowly lost out in the 30's, but I had to pick him for this, despite heavy competition. Like Jack Johnson before him, Joe Louis defied the racism of the era, but rather than creating controversy, Louis was the opposite, a national icon through WWII, he also finally ended the colour line, as well as standing up against racism outside of the ring.
    1950's Rocky Marciano
    There may have been better boxers than Rocky, but few greater. He always won eventually in some of the most exciting matches of all time.
    1960's Muhammad Ali
    He was witty outside of the ring, and magnificint inside of it.
    1970's Muhammad Ali
    Ali was not the same fighter as his younger self, yet he kept finding a way to win, to beat one of the most feared fighters in George Foreman. Coming back from exhile to reclaim the throne.
    1980's Mike Tyson
    Perhaps no other boxer was quite as feared as Tyson. Even to this day, people who don't know boxing, know Tyson.
    1990's Roy Jones Jr.
    He clowned his opponents as he went up the weights in spectacular style, only losing by dq
    2000's Manny Pacquiao
    Won titles in a crazy number of divisions and built a stacked resume, scoring many brilliant KOs
    2010's Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    It was only towards the end where Mayweather finally took on his rivial Pacquiao, but he made it look easy. Couple this with 3 of the 5 biggest PPV events in history from one fighter in one decade, with one of the others being him in last decade, and I think he well earns his place.

    Honourable Mentions
    1880's Jack Dempsey, Charley Mitchell, Jack McAuliffe
    1890's James J Corbett, Tommy Ryan, George Dixon
    1900's James J Jeffries, Bob Fitzsimmons, Packey McFarland, Joe Gans
    1910's Jimmy Wilde, Benny Leonard, Mike Gibbons
    1920's Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Billy Miske
    1930's Barney Ross, Joe Louis, Billy Conn
    1940's Sugar Ray Robinson, Charley Burley, Ezzard Charles
    1950's Sugar Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles
    1960's Dick Tiger, Emile Griffith, Floyd Patterson
    1970's Carlos Monzon, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Roberto Duran
    1980's Sugar Ray Leonard, Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks
    1990's Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Julio Cesar Chavez
    2000's Floyd Mayweather Jr., Joe Calzaghe, Wladimir Klitschko
    2010's Andre Ward, Vasiliy Lomachenko, Gennady Golovkin
     
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  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson no... Ward? no..I will buy the 2000, I pick Oscar in the 1990s not Roy.
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    If it wasn't clear, pure ability wasn't the only criteria, I was also going for "imapct" which generally favours heavyweights, which is why I picked Tyson. Even now he is probably the most iconic boxer.

    I made the criteria intentionally subjective so the lists could have some variation.
     
  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    This reminds me of a thread I had about the greatest fights per decade

    1880's John L Sullivan
    1890's James Jeffries
    1900's Jack Johnson
    1910's Sam Langford
    1920's Jack Dempsey
    1930's Joe Louis
    1940's Sugar Ray Robinson
    1950's Rocky Marciano
    1960's Muhammad Ali
    1970's Muhammad Ali
    1980's Hagler/Leonard
    1990's Evander Holyfield
    2000's Floyd Mayweather
    2010's Vasyl Lomachenko (I originally would've said GGG but...)
     
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  5. mark ant

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    Ray Leonard was the dominant fighter of the 80`s, every bit as good as the hype. Monzon fought better than Ali did in the 70`s and beat fighters like Griffith and Benvenuti who were far superior to Norton who exploited Ali`s heavier body, in being able to catch him when he jabbed, by watching his shoulders. Robinson was the best fighter during the 40`s and beat Kid Gavilan, Louis didn`t anybody on that level, but did destroy a top level fighter in Schmeling.
    Robi also beat 4 of the Top 50 P4P fighters of all time during the 50`s. Duran beat DeJesus during the 70`s who was far better in quality to an ageing Norton that gave Holmes all he could handle at heavyweight, also Larry was nailed by a slow handed fighter like Shavers in the 70`s, while that`s an iconic moment where Holmes proved along with Ali that he had the chin of the 70`s, his defense was way more sloppy than a lightweight Duran, when Roberto moved up to welter in 1980 and met Sugar, Leonard was shocked at how hard Duran was to hit. JCC beat better fighters than Holmes did in the 80`s. Julio also only had one great fight during the 90`s compared to his peak form during the `80`s at his best weight.
     
  6. janitor

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    I agree with your picks for the most part.

    I would probably pick Joe Gans for the 1900s, Sugar Ray Robinson for the 1950s, and Pernell Whitaker for the 1990s.

    I might pick Carlos Monzon for the 1970s, if only because I already had Ali for the 60s.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Tyson isn't the fighter of the 80's. Consensus choice is SRL with Hagler second. Duran deserves mention for the 70's.
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I meant to include Duran, don't know how I messed that up. I added in quick explanations in the OP too.
     
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  9. PernellSweetPea

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    He came up at the end of the 1980s. Hagler and Hearns were there in the earlier part and at the tend. Tyson to me was not the 1980s. He was a dominant great fighter, but he was not the 1980s. If you put him there, you ignore half a decade. Some people say Ray. On wins yes, on activity no. Hearns was a great that decade to fight a fight every year and a championship fight every year except 1983. Holmes was great for the early part of the 1980s. Nelson. Chavez in the middle. Spinks could be mentioned also. Pryor really burned out quickly. Camacho never materialized. But not Tyson.
     
  10. PernellSweetPea

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    Evander in the 1990s? He sure was active, but the wins? Probably Delahoya.. runner up Jones perhaps. but with Oscar I pick him. 2000s I pick Manny.
     
  11. Bronze Tiger

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    Roy Jones was pound for pound number one for most of that decade ..
     
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  12. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Tyson was the most feared man in the world ...and the most famous athlete on planet .He reached the same level as Leonard and Hagler in 4 years
     
  13. Tin_Ribs

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    Greatest imo, 20th onwards....

    1900s - Gans
    1910s - Langford
    1920s - Greb, possibly Leonard
    1930s - Armstrong
    1940s - Robinson or Charles
    1950s - Robinson
    1960s - Very tough, maybe the toughest. I think it's between Jofre, Ortiz and Griffith with the first two having the strongest arguments owing to how many close, controversial nods Emile got. You can make good arguments for Harada, Saldivar or possibly LMR depending on your interpretation of his series with Griffith which I thought he won clearly. Ali and Tiger can be championed too.
    1970s - Duran or possibly Monzon. I think Duran had better wins myself with Marcel, Buchanan and DeJesus and was just as dominant as Monzon. Had Montreal been a shade earlier, Duran would be light years in front. Carlos was undefeated though and an immense champion. Ali was probably third. If Zarate hadn't been waxed by Gomez I think he'd be up there. People either forget or don't acknowledge how highly he was regarded during his initial run at Barham.

    1980s - Leonard
    1990s - Pea or Roy
    2000s - Pac over Floyd for me. Less dominant but beat far superior competition and stretched himself much more with the weight-climbing imo. It's only his struggles with Marquez that hinder him.
    2010s - If Lomachenko carries on in current form, it'll be him come 2020. As things stand though, it's Gonzalez for me despite the Sor Rungvusai disaster. Cut a swathe though four divisions without losing and beat some excellent fighters along the way. Floyd and Ward too inactive/didn't do enough, with Mayweathers best work coming in prior decades. Same mostly from Klitschko.
     
  14. Tin_Ribs

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    A lot of fighters are unlucky that their great work often straddled decades. Benny, Packey, Ali, Louis, Arguello, Olivares, Holyfield and lots of others.
     
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    I shamefully forgot Pep for the 40s. Iirc two of his losses to Saddled were post 1950, which puts him in a monstrously strong position with his prior record and level of dominance.