Fighters Lennox Lewis ducked

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ryan O'Reilly, Mar 20, 2012.


  1. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The **** you type...LL CLEARLY beat Holy in the first fight. I don't give a **** how the judges scored it. Most people gave LL 9 or more rounds. That's MORE THAN decisive. Jesus Christ you are ****ing whack.
     
  2. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So if doesn't matter that King kept Tyson away from Lewis? Wow, you are so ignorant.
     
  3. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Off the top of my head?

    Bruno
    Tua
    Golota
    Ike (didn't get any title shots though)
    Schultz and Botha but they were padded records IMO
    Akinwande
    Sanders
    Ruddock


    If you want to class the WBO as a legit belt back then (which anyone who followed boxing back then will tell you, it wasn't) then you have to add

    Michael Bentt (ugh)
    2 time world champ Herbie Hide (I was just about sick in my mouth typing that).
     
  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    y u mad? u mad u just got taken to the woodshed? He just proved you said Lewis was a good heavy, which you denied and called him a liar for. Now he digs up evidence and you claim he is stalking you.

    I am done with you. ****ing scrub.
     
  5. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Holy really. In the around 15 years from Tysom emerging to Lewis retiring, I would rank the best fighters as:

    Lewis
    Holyfield
    Tyson
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    Bowe. Maybe just in front another bunch of guys on the Moorer, Tua, Bruno etc.

    There were a huge number of good contender/titlist level fighters around in that period, but those guys stand out.

    I go for longevity and overall career when ranking those guys. If you could bottle say 18/24 months and judge on that on H2H basis, I'd move Tyson to the top, and maybe swap Bowe and Holy.

    Overall career wise though, it's Holy by some distance when you throw his CW career into the mix. He was simply brilliant as a cruiser.

    We're talking purely as heavies here though, and size, whether guys overachieved etc is irrelevant. Purely who was a better heavyweight while they were relevant, and I think Lewis proved over his career he was better than Holy. Just as Holy proved better than Tyson who was a flash in the pan, albeit a totally impressive and fearsome one.

    I'm just trying to show how easy it is to write a guys achievements off if you focus on nothing but the absolute worst aspects of their career.
     
  6. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody said the man smoked crack rock right before he walked into the ring:patsch

    Jeez

    while you are at your silly statics

    can you name 3 undisputed heavyweight champs that were Koed twice with one punch by guys like koed lewis ?
     
  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is there any other 3 time heavyweight champion in history that avoided left handers his entire career ?


    both at the entry level right the way to championship level ?
     
  8. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis was one of 2 heavyweights all time to be handed the WBC heavyweight championship without fighting for it.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Who did moorer beat to proved he was very good and won the belt 4 times? Heart problem Holyfield? Bert Cooper? Axel? :lol: Moorer went life and death vs Freaking botha who lewis easily destroyed in the 2nd round. <<<This proved he was very good? lol PLEASE!! Moorer resumes is flat out disgusting with no big wins vs fighters that were very good not name holyfield who again had a heart problem.
     
  10. Box-Fan

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    It really annoys me that people harp on that "Lewis beat and old past prime Tyson" this is despite the fact that Lewis is actually OLDER!
     
  11. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "beat every fighter he ever fought"

    another BS stat. Only true cause they gave him rematches, whenever he was in a close or fight that needed to be rematched, he never gave the opponent he opportunity
     
  12. PityTheFool

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    Still true though.Irrefutably true in fact.Does it mean that it's untrue because it happened in rematches?
    That really is a barrel-scraping attempt Doyle.Step your game up.
     
  13. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure its true !

    But it's no special feat.

    In fact its a feat he can claim- and literally stop overs from achieving all at the same time.
     
  14. thesandman

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    McCall didn't give Lewis a rematch out of the goodness of his heart. It was a few years later, and only occurred because Don King had the choice of which of his fighters to put in against Lewis, and he chose McCall because he thought Lewis wouldn't want to face a guy that had KOd him.

    He had to take Rahman to court to enforce his signed rematch clause. Rahman wanted (with Don King now his manager) tried everything to get out of it.

    Let's not pretend Lewis was given rematches because people were good guys.

    Tell me how many rematch clauses Lewis walked away from?


    Unlucky losers don't get a second crack at being champ. Any time Lewis needed to win on his way up, he did. He didn't rely on the charity of others. Why should he keep giving guys shots until they finally beat him?
     
  15. BeesKneesBowden

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    if lennox lewis wasnt that great of a champion then the klitschkos are the worst champions ever as they are dominating in time where ive never seen the division this bad and they could take harder fights but choose not to