Fighters of the Century per Futch/Dundee/Clancy/Duva/Chargin - The Middleweights.

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    THE TOP MIDDLEWEIGHTS OF THE CENTURY

    As voted by a five-member panel (Futch/Dundee/Clancy/Duva/Chargin) of experts assembled by Associated Press. First-place votes are in parenthesis; points based on 10 points for a first-place vote down to one point for a 10th-place vote. When a division has five selections, a first-place vote is worth five points.

    MIDDLEWEIGHTS

    1 Sugar Ray Robinson (4) 49

    2 Harry Greb (1) 42

    3 Marvin Hagler 28

    4 Mickey Walker 26

    5 Carlos Monzon 21

    6 *Charley Burley 20

    7 Jake La Motta 19

    8 Stanley Ketchel 15

    9 Marcel Cerdan 12

    10 Tony Zale 11
     
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    SRR 4 first place votes. Immense praise considering the brilliance of the panel. Monzon relegated to 5th and Burley bangs in at #6.

    * denotes never a champ in the division.
     
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  3. Indefatigable

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    Great except for Burley and
     
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  4. Reinhardt

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    As great as Robinson was I've never thought he was the greatest middleweight of all time
     
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  5. Mike Cannon

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    So, who do you think is the greatest ? keep well.
     
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    I'd say Harry Greb, but Emanuel Steward thought Hagler was but maybe that was because Marvin flattened his boy Tommy.
    1.Greb
    2.Hagler
    3.Robinson
    4.Monzon
     
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  7. Mike Cannon

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    Neat ,mine is 1/ Greb 2/SRR 3/ Hagler 4/ Monzon, hon mention: Walker, Kecthel , Steele, Tiger, keep well matey;)
     
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  8. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Greb all the way
     
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  9. Samtotheg

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    So they include Greb but not some of the top guys he fought in his era at the same weight, how is Cerdan on this list ?
     
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  10. Lenny

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    Interesting list ---need some help from an old timer.......Years ago early to mid 80s I picked up a boxing magazine {Boxing news, Boxing World} I forget . They had a forum pitting Hagler against former middleweight fighters. If I remember correctly they had Hagler losing to most of them. Des anyone recall this? That why I was so surprised that he was rated so highly with these " experts". Thanks
     
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  11. Samtotheg

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    I think it was an La times article, billy conn doesnt think hagler is top 10 all time middle and I agree (based on resume and his skills look very meh to me)
     
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    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-03-10-sp-2989-story.html
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    LaMotta is my No. 1 among 164-pound welterweights.
     
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    Billy Conn must have had brain damage. Overall not as complimentary as I woud have expected. I need to watch Monzon.... Do not know enough about him
     
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