Fighters of the Century per Futch/Dundee/Clancy/Duva/Chargin - The Welterweights.

Yes, that's why it's a great win. Still, at the time Hearns beat Cuevas, Duran had just defeated SRL in Montreal.
And then after that, Hearns has not much else of significance on his resume.

 

I'm not sure what Hearns not getting the rematch has to do with his resume at 147.
We both agree he moved up. None of his fights after September 1981 were at welter.
Regardless of Leonard, Hearns could have boosted his resume at welter against the guys I mentioned, or others, in the period in question (ie. 1982 and beyond). Which would put him higher up on an ATG welter list, resume-based. I'm not saying he should have. But it would give him a deeper resume at 147.

Which doesn't tell us anything about Hearns at welterweight.

I don't have Basilio ahead of him.

Ross, yes, i think so.
Ross beat Billy Petrolle, who was a great fighter and rated #1 contender at welter.
Ross beat McLarnin 2-1. McLarnin was a great welterweight who was coming off that 1st round KO over Young Corbett III.
Ross beat Ceferino Garcia 3 times at welterweight. Garcia was a great fighter and a big puncher.
Ross beat a few others, including Izzy Jannazzo, who was pretty good and rated at the time.

Hearns has Cuevas and then .... ? .... Clyde Gray and Angel Espada (who probably hadn't won a meaningful fight in almost 5 years) and Randy Shields maybe.

 

Based on resume alone, I don't think Hearns makes the cut.
That doesn't mean Hearns has a poor resume or record at 147 pounds, it's just relative to the numerous fighters in the division who have better resumes.

That's the third time you've mentioned McGrain's list, JT.

 

I had him at #27.

 

I disagree. Both he and his opponent had to weigh 147 on the morning of the fight. I don't see how you can be a weight bully if you weigh the same as your opponent.

If Tommy was naturally bigger, that means he would have had to shed more weight, weakening himself in doing so. He won't regain a load of strength in 12 hours if the weight was unnaturally low for him. Advantage to his opponent, if anything.

 

Yeah, it's hard to 'properly' weight bully in a same day weigh-in era - although it is doable. Hearns was just a taller welterweight with a skinny frame. He wasn't a weight bully, and you can tell because he was able to shed extra weight for the Leonard fight.

 

He was a “weight bully” that same day weighed in at 145 for the first Leonard fight. This “ weight bully” stuff is nonsense.

 

P4P all time ?

 

WW.

 

Let me get this right, so you're saying that you have Tommy Hearns as the 27 greatest welterweight of all time ?