Fighters other than Duran who gained legendary status from being beat by great fighte

Ban the TS IB. Look at the troll threads that he's started.

 

Duran had his reign of terror at lightweight in the 70's (72-79) and he could of just hanged them up and call it a day compiling a record of 62-1, defeating and avenging the only loss he had, he was already a well known legend at the time. Beat Arguello conqueror Marcel, Kobayashi, Buchanan, Ishimatsu, Dejesus, and Mamby, future hofers. Yes he's infamous for No Mas, but he's equally famous for taking the younger, faster,bigger Leonard's 0. Duran wasn't supposed to last 6 rounds with Leonard or Barkley, yet he beat them. What he did with Hagler is like Crawford busting up GGG's face and making it a close fight.

 

I rank Duran's performance against Hagler above any victory he had post his victory against Leonard in Montreal.

Duran was allready a legend before he beat Leonard, that victory and any victory after that only added to the legend.

To pummel 154 lbs champ Davey Moore add's to the legend.

To give a prime Marvin Hagler all he could handle adds to the legend.

To beat Iran Barkley who had just knocked out Tommy Hearns, add's to the legend.

Hell, Duran as a senior citizen even has some losses against Hector Camacho and Vinny Pazienza that could have easily went his way, especially his first fight vs Camacho, no way that he lost that fight. It add's to his legend.

ROBERTO DURAN=LEGEND

 

really great fighter. his aggressive shifting of balance was unparalleled.. that is born, not made. top-3 of the last forty years.

 

Keep posting, each post tells us how truly stupid you are.

Right now you've moved from a below average high schooler to a below average elementary school child.

 

If you've seen the Duran Buchanan fight, as it appears you haven't, you would have seen 2 events occur: 1. Duran convincingly beating Kenny. 2. Kenny throwing 2 punches CLEARLY after the bell sounded, thereby precipitating Duran landing the ball punch. Don't believe me? Don't. Just YouTube the fight and see for yourself. And yes going 62 1 in his first 63 fights would indicate dominance:nut.

 

I have to break my post up because I wrote a long response and it didn't register on the forum. I had Duran beating Barkley. If you disagree, fine. But I'm certain that version of Barkley would have stopped any of the lightweight and junior welterweight would be conquerors of Duran you listed with the possible exception of Floyd, who probably would never fought a guy like Barkley, and if he did, would have spent the whole fight on his bicycle.

 

When Duran beat Davey Moore, you conveniently failed to mentioned that Davey had already stopped a capable contender in Ayub Kalule awhile before the Duran fight transpired and was the 2nd fellow to stop Wilfred Benitez (obviously after Leonard)just a couple of fights afterwards. And Duran didn't beat a "diminished" version of Leonard. That implies that he was "weakened". He beat the bigger, taller, faster and harder punching Leonard that chose to stand and slug-you know, the tactics Leonard successfully employed in knocking Tommy Hearns out because, when they were sticking and moving Tommy was boxing his ears off. But if you want to give Leonard the decision against Duran as you do Barkley, go right ahead. And when you say that he wasn't a standout above lightweight where he beat both Palomino and Leonard at that weight, and then lost to Leonard in the rematch, you don't have any credibility there as that was his single loss at 147. The facts would indicate Duran was a standout at 147.

 

If you want to continue to underrate DeJesus and seriously underrate Duran, go right ahead. I love your statement that DeJesus nearly tore Duran's head off in the 1st half of the 2nd fight. Really? He nearly tore Duran's head off so much that Duran came back to stop him? DeJesus must really suck. And as far as Alexis being the best lightweight Duran would ever fight, I'm not sold that Alexis was a better lightweight than Ken Buchanan. Perhaps you are, but I'm not.

 

As far as Chico is concerned, he was very good and styles make fights, but his best weight was 130 and he was stopped by guys like Joel Casamayor and Jose Luis Castillo. I suppose they beat Duran too,lol. And your statement that Duran would be walking into his firepower is a bit crazy. Did you ever see Duran fight? Don't you believe Duran was an accomplished defensive fighter? Well maybe you believe he wasn't. Do you honestly believe Corrales was a more accomplished boxer than Duran? I believe Duran stops him within 10 and I also believe Ken Buchanan boxes Chico's ears off.

 

Now on to Aaron and Kostya. Aaron's 2 best opponents were 35 year old Kid Pambele and best at 130-135 Alexis. Outside of those 2, his resume is very weak. As far as Kostya is concerned, the close to prime version was stopped by Vince Phillips. Just curious, does Vince stop Duran too? You wrote that those 2 are far better than anyone Duran beat at lightweight, which is plausible because they fought at 140. You also wrote that they are so far better than anyone Duran lost to, it's very easy to envisage beating them beating him or knocking him out. Those are your words. Well 1st off considering 2 big punching 147 pounders in Palomino and Leonard couldn't put a dent in Duran's chin, the whole knockout scenario goes right out the window before the discussion even begins. I'm certain the versions that Duran beat both knock Kostya (who was stopped twice at 140 and didn't fight at welter in appromimately 35 bouts) into tomorrow. And I'm certain both of them would beat Aaron, who was stopped by none other than Bobby Joe Young when he finally moved up to welter. Now about who Duran lost to, let's address that. Other that the aforementioned underrated by you DeJesus who decisioned Duran in a non-title bout and was subsequently destroyed in the 2 rematches, Duran was beaten by Wilfred Benitez, Kirkland Laing, and Tommy Hearns at 154. Do you honestly believe either fighter- one being stopped by Vince Phillips at 140 and the other by Bobby Joe Young at 147 beats any of those 3 at 154? Or Marvin Hagler and Robbie Sims at 160?

 

Duran was a smaller man than Leonard. He was shorter, had a shorter reach and a smaller chest. Actually his physical dimensions are practically identical to those of Julio Cesar Chavez. He didn't grow into welter unless you're referring to his waistline. Just look how his body reacted as he got older. Every time he moved up, his body lost definition. In other words, as he got older, he got fatter. Anyone with 2 eyes can see that. If anything, he lost muscle definition at 147, lacked any definition at 154 and looked tubby at 160. Compare that with Mayweather who is ripped at 147 and 154. THAT'S a fellow that grew into the heavier weights.

 

controversial decision? lmao. he dominated that fight.