Fighters overdue to make HOF

Junior Lightweight Champion (1925-29) Tod Morgan

In support I am quoting my recent post from the discussion "Top 10 Greates 130lbs. Title Fight Victories Ever?":

"Tod Morgan defended the 130-pound crown successfully 13 times during his title reign from 1925 to 1929. The only films of Morgan are a short clip of sparring in 1927 and a few newsreel clips of fights after he moved to Australia in the mid-1930s. Thus, it is hard to judge firsthand which of his fights might have been the most exciting.

"A few candidates are his fights with:

"Steve Sullivan June 3, 1926; Joe Glick September 30, 1926 (praised both by Nat Fleischer in the Ring and by the AP whose reporter wrote: 'Morgan put up one of the nicest exhibitions of boxing seen at the garden in some time. From the start he showed superiority over Glick. He won all his rounds by wide margins. But for the gameness of Glick he would have gone down early in the bout.');

"Carl Duane November 11, 1926 (AP: 'The "crown still rests" on Morgan's "blonde thatch today although slightly jarred down over one ear.... Duane belted the champion about the head with vicious hooks that brought a stream of blood from Morgan's mouth, but the Coast boy, although unable to floor his rival, poured such a stream of straight, clean punches to Duane's head that there was no question of superiorty.');

"Joe Glick December 16, 1927 (BoxRec: 'Morgan sank to the floor three times under punches to the body, on which his claims of foul were disallowed. He went down for a count of nine in the second round, and was down twice in the fifth, once for a count of nine and on the second occasion the bell rang. In the 14th round, he again sank to the canvas out of an exchange in mid-ring from a left aimed at the body but which was clear to Referee Forbes to have landed palpably low. Forbes didn't even start a count; he motioned Glick to his corner and signaled Morgan's seconds to come in and carry the injured champion to his corner, disqualifying Glick after the round had gone two minutes and nine seconds. The decision was popular with the crowd.' As I recall,Ring Magazine reported that it was a remarkable recovery for Morgan as he was coming on strong toward the end of the bout despite the early knockdowns.).

"Eddie Cannonball Martin July 18, 1928 (Second of two exciting bouts. Wikipedia: 'In their brutal July bout, the Associated Press gave Morgan eight of the fifteen rounds, and Martin only four, with three even. The fighting was close throughout the contest. Morgan received a gash from a head butt in the first round, while Morgan cut Martin's right cheek in the third. In the tenth, Martin's right eyebrow was cut deeply. Morgan also had a large knot above his right eye, a bloodly nose, and a cut behind his right ear.')

"There are others, but this gives an idea.

"Morgan was from Seattle and is a homeboy of mine. Given the qualifications of many who have been admitted into the Hall of Fame in recent years, he deserves some consideration."

 

Yes, Morgan's a good shout.

 

Charley White.
Al Hostak.

For modernists, Iran Barkley.

 

They changed old timers criteria a few years ago. If you had your last fight before 1989 you are considered an old timer.

 

I think he will have a hard time even making the list!

 

We will agree to disagree on this one. Two division champ that was pretty dominant at middleweight before his knee gave out.

 

Other boxers of note, who had their last fight in 2014:
Carl Froch
Juan Manuel Marquez
Jorge Arce

I could be wrong… but I believe all 3 have a better chance of getting on the list.

 

Looking at that list I would have to agree with you. Marquez and Arce especially deserve to be in. Froch is a little more borderline to me but is more deserving then some that have made it in. BHOP should be going in 2021.

 

I never said anything about Froch being elected to the HOF - all I said, was that (imo) he has a better chance of making the list next year than Martinez.

Anyway, he's not competing with guys like Valdez and DeJesus - as they belong in a different category.

 

Jeff Clark

Dave Holly

Jack Blackburn (as a fighter)

Primo Carnera

 

Well, you could be right... we'll have to wait and see.