Fighters that are complete *******s...

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The evidence against Carter was flimsy at best, the evidence against Artis was laughable.

    Rather than watching the mediocre at best movie; I suggest you read the more balanced and more engrossing book 'Hurricane; The life of Rubin Carter, fighter.'
     
  2. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Davey Hilton-Sick *******
    Abe Attell-Cheating *******
    Ike Ibeabuchi-Crazy *******
    James Toney-Loud mouthed,classless,steroid filled *******
    Tony Ayala-Evil *******
    James Butler-See above *******
    Naseem Hamed-Cocky *******
    Billy Papke-Mean *******
    Clifford Etienne-Crack head,thug *******
    Jeff Fenech-Nasty *******
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

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    I suggest you read newspaper articles instead. Carter's one lucky man.
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    He hardly qualifies as a 'complete *******', a man who devoted much of his time to God and is liked by almost everyone who met him (apart from jealous, classless buffoons like Larry Holmes). Even Ali said, in 1975, that he didn't understand why Foreman acts all broody and mean and doesn't speak to the press when he's a nice guy underneath.
    Who's your other choice: Earnie Shavers? :huh
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Newspapers tend to have agenda's one way or another. Just because Carter was not the nicest person in the world, indeed he comes across as a 'complete *******' sometimes, does not mean he should be stiched up for murder.

    The documents and evidence in the case were not enough to convict Carter, at least not in Britain.
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Ha ha, and books called 'Hurricane.....' don't?
     
  7. KTFO

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    People tell you 'Jump off that skyscraper', and you jump. Moron.
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

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    So it's all lies is it. Did you know Ray did you?
     
  9. McGrain

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    As for the murder convictions: meh.

    But he was a nasty peice of work as it stands. I once read he told Grifith: You are a like a woman who wants to be raped.

    Very interesting choice of words that.
     
  10. McGrain

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    There's a story that he stopped his wife for speeding and gave her a ticket.

    Surely that isn't to be held against him?
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

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    He was even accused of assault when he was out on bail but the old 'mysteriously dropped' chestnut emerged. The poor girl probably had her life threatened. Then again, she's bound to be lying, as was the witness who said he was bribed not to testify- he was obviously lying too. Everyone was, except Carter. :nut
     
  12. My dinner with Conteh

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    Ha ha, classic. Hope he made her pay with her money. :lol:
     
  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course, every bit of press concerning the Carter case seemed to have an agenda, every document in the case had an agenda, anyone who knows the story has their own spin on it. But what is true, is the conviction was unsafe, (hence the retrial) and the conviction would of been less likely to of happened in other States and countries.
     
  14. jhar26

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    http://graphicwitness.com/carter/
     
  15. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lamotta
    Robinson
    Ayala Jr.
    Foreman ( pre-boxing)
    Tyson
    Liston
    Lyle
    Graziano( pre-boxing)
    Ibeabuchi
    etc....................

    There are a lot of them who were bad people who say boxing saved them for the most part,and some that it didnt save