Fighters that could hang with Top 10 ATGs in 2-3 divisions

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  1. Tippy

    Tippy Member Full Member

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    I'm sure this will be a very short list.

    Head to head using the original 8 divisions who were the guys that you are comfortable saying could hang with the all time top 10 in multiple divisions and why?
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Armstrong for obvious reasons.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Obviously we have Langford , Fitzsimmons, Armstrong, Pacquiao and Charles.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    I'm assuming you mean the original divisions. There'd be loads if you accepted the ******* divisions.

    For guys I think could comfortable hang with elites at 3 of the original 8 divisions are:

    Ezzard Charles
    Roberto Duran
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Jimmy McLarnin
    Tony Canzoneri
    Ismael Laguna
    Manny Pacquiao

    They stand out pretty predominantly. There's probably a 100 who could do it at two. Guys like Roy, Toney, Floyd, Greb, Tunney, Arguello, Jofre, Harada ect; would comprise that list.
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    How has no one mentioned Sam Langford?
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I mistakenly put Walcott, but I meant Sam.
     
  7. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Duran has done it. He hung well with Hagler and Leonard and did good stuff at lightweight and that’s three original divisions. I think an on Duran would give Monzon hell too plus others.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the yardstick for this subject is:
    Armstrong
    Duran
    Greb
    Langford
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Ezzard Charles
    As has already been pointed out there are many more who could rumble in 3 divisions but I think these guys are the standard
     
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  9. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Barney Ross
    Dela Hoya
    Mayweather
    Pacquiao
    Hearns
    Leonard
    Duran
    Langford
    Argüello
    Benitez
    Gomez
    Roman González
    Lomachenko
    Marquez
    Roy Jones
    Nonito Donaire
    Hopkins
    Whitaker
    Morales
    Barrera
    Tapia
    James Toney
    Camacho
    Barrera
    Mikey Garcia
    Hasegawa
    Yaegashi
    And I guess Kazuto Ioka
     
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  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Michael Spinks, Mickey Walker, Carmen Basilo, Julio Cesar Chavez, Gene Tunney, Shane Mosley among others
     
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  11. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If it's two original divisions you have a longish list. Three of the old divisions narrows it down hugely. That's like hanging with ATG flyweights bantams and feathers; feathers, lightweights and welters; welters, middles and light heavies. And then we're talking ATGs at those weights, Imagine fighting Robinson at welter, LaMotta or Zale at middle and then moving up to challenge Moore?

    @Reinhardt's list covers it for me, if it's three original weight classes and fighting ATGs in it. I'd just add Ismael Laguna as per @George Crowcroft suggestion. A top performer at bantam and lightweight; not sure if he did much at feather but competing so ably in the classes either side would suggest he could have. In fact it may have been his optimum weight class.
     
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  12. Bujia

    Bujia Member Full Member

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    Can't think of a better answer than Robinson at Lightweight, Welterweight, and Middleweight. People seem to forget he started at Lightweight and picked up some very good wins at/around the weight early on.
     


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