Fighters that didn't have the resume to correctly reflect their great ability

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  1. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopefully Rigo won't fall into this bracket and be remembered for one great win over Donaire and end up being ducked by the other top names until he is past best.

    You could argue GGG at the moment hasn't the resume to reflect his ability.

    David Haye? Had all the tools and was v skilled but his HW resume is poor.
     
  2. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman in the 90s
    Roy jones
    Calzaghe
    Floyd
     
  3. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    Rigo and ggg are great examples because it's not their fault they have weak resume :good

    But haye failed to beat wlad - got dominated so his status is what it should be
     
  4. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    One way to look at it is looking for fighters who could have beat superior opposition to who they actually beat
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Mayweather got old De la Hoya, Alvarez, Castillo, Corrales, old Cotto, old Mosley, old Marquez

    Pryor got Arguello, Cervantes

    Jones got Hopkins, Toney, McCallum

    Bob Foster is a good one. He qualifies.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    How is it not their fault? They stayed amateur until they were both thirty and wasted their best years. If they'd gone pro five or ten years earlier they could have built a better resume.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    Cervantes was pretty old. Arguello was a bit on the downside, but would've probably beaten any other 140 lb. fighters at the time. Excellent win, but Pryor's resume outside of that is thin. And no, he wasn't this greatly avoided fighter by the big names, despite the revisionist history.

    McCallum was at the end of his career. He peaked in the mid 80s at 154. Mayweather, Jones, and Foster are all all-time greats....with weak resumes for all-time greats.
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    I wouldn't say Haye was really that impressive or had all the tools. He had good power and a very fast right hand. He showed a good defense against Wlad, but focusing so much on defense came at the expense of his offense. When he wasn't in that mode, he didn't seem hard at all to hit with the jab.

    His chin and stamina were liabilities, which is probably why he threw so sparingly. His combinations were sloppy and wild, not well placed.