Fighters that get beat by the clinch...

this is of course refering to the clazaghe-hopkins match.
in that fight cortez broke it up ammiedietly...i dont think it was becuase he was an american as some brits are trying to claim. he wanted a clean fight so he got rid of the clinches.

if cortez kept calzaghe in the clinch and forced him to work then i would of been a happy man.

i think the whole story of the fight was due to calzaghe walking in and following hopkins...even though he is the boxer with the handspeed and workrate why is he chasing after him.

have you seen tyson - botha?
both jabs taunts and when mike comes in he throws an uppercut and clinches...everytime he clinched mike seemed to just stand there liek a plum...didnt do anything.

 

Rich Franklin was destroyed in the clinch

 

You ever figure how exhausting it is to fight and wrestle out of a clinch ? it burns energy hella quick to wrestle, and the punches you throw dont always get scored as clean shots. So its not always the optimal strategy to wrestle out, you aren't scoring points, and it doesn't impress any judges so why do it? Also sometimes when two fighters clinch its really just both boxers agreeing to take a short breather until the ref gets there to break it up. The other times, clinching can be interpreted as two men celebrating each others strength.
:rofl

 

Intelligent clinching can offset almost any fighter.

Sammy Agnott handed ATG Willie Pep his first loss by using intelligent clinching.

 

Hasim Rahman Vs John Ruiz - Case in point - I want my 50 minutes back John and Hasim - That was shithouse.

 

Any clinching can be considered intelligent.

I personallly don't care for any type of clinching and it baffles me(as well as pisses me off) when anyone will jump all over someone like Ruiz for constant hugging but then turns around and claims what a "master boxer" Hopkins is for doing the same thing.

Yes there is a big difference in the boxing skills of a Hopkins as compared to a Ruiz, but this hugging **** is IMO, only excuseable when a boxer gets popped and is just trying to hold on for dear life!

 

Too much clinching made Tszyu quit.

 

Too much clinching makes me change the channel!

 

the heavyweight division was nearly destroyed by the awesome power of the BEARDED WARRIOR's JAB and Grab

 

Chris Byrd was absolutely clueless as to how to go about fighting out of and even avoiding the clinch from Fres Oquendo......

Oquendo would jump in with a two or three punch combination and get into a clinch with Byrd......

.....the thing that was so upsetting to me with Byrds performance was that he implemented the same manuever over and over again (slipping to the side as to get ready to counter, but before the counter came, the clinch from Fres came)
.....Byrd made absolutely no adjustments to his defensive manuevers to try and avoid Oquendo clinching......imo he could have used his legs to try and manuever Oquendo and make him think twice about clinching.
.......but no, it was the same thing over and over again....Byrd getting hit, then him slipping the last punch of the combination, but not being fast enough to counter before Oquendo could clinch.....
.....Over and over again the same thing, and Byrd just could'nt solve it!:tired

 

All I can say is. Your a fighter, just wait until you fight a taller guy who uses his reach, forces you to break the distance only to step in and tie you up.. You try and fight out, exhaust yourself, or you wait for the ref to break you up.. Same cycle over and over again.. Look for an opportunity to break the gap, time something off a jab or a cross to come into your range, get clinched again.. You have to work a puzzle just to get into position to fight, then you get clinched right when you get there.

For a long time Jermain Taylor did exactly this.. He would fight pretty well from the outside, force his opponent to work behind the jab to get inside or try to wing something.. He simply step foward and clinch.. Tie up a guys arms from behin and let him fight out.. They are already exherting themselves trying to get past the jab and the cross just to get into range.

 

It's hard to avoid a fighter that wants to hug, and is great at it. But yes, it also pisses me off that the huggee accepts this so much - I mainly think it's due to the fear of making mistakes, so they go for the easiest thing; accepting the hug.

BTW Cortez did a horrid job - and I think that the ref is the one guilty of letting the boxers bore us. Sportsmen are like children, they need to know what kind of playground they are "playing" at, and then they play to the boundaries or beyond.

 

Peter got beat by the clinch in his fight with Wlad. Well, that and about 1000 jabs.