Fighters that never moved up in weight classes

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  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch every titlist in his division, long time 122 lb titlists Bungu, Barrera, Vazquez, etc.
     
  2. New

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    This is all true.
     
  3. New

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    No, no, didn't join for those reasons.
     
  4. New

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    then why he didnt beat Barrera, who was fighting for the first time at Featherweight?
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Barrera couldn't beat Pacquiao, but could beat Morales....who BTW, beat Pacquaio.

    See how that works? Just because Hamed lost to Barrera doesn't mean he can't compete and defeat other great fighters. One has nothing to do with the other.

    Bottom line, your original assertion was incorrect. Hamed obviously did change divisions and win. Why didn't he move up to 130? Who cares....you said he didn't move up at all.
     
  6. 4Rounder

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    Ricardo Lopez ---> ATG
     
  7. New

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    ok, and I see Hamed completely conned you.

    Fortunately, Barrera exposed him very well while fighting for the first time at Featherweight. BTW, this is why Barrera couldn't ko him in less than 6 rounds. Didn't have enought power at the new division (featherweight).
     
  8. Illmatic

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    he moved up...went 1-0-1 with that nicaraguan guiy
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, losing to an ATG is being exposed.

    Right....so Pacquaio exposed Barrera? Since he beat him on a few weeks notice and in his first fight at 126? This is your logic correct?

    Sorry, just because I don't share your hatred for Hamed doesn't mean he conned me. Perhaps you're just ill informed. It's a distinct possiblity. You should get that taken care of.

    PS. Barrera didn't KO him because it would have involved too big a risk. That's why he didn't go for the KO. Barrera's power at 126 was fine.
     
  10. 4Rounder

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    Yeah I just looked. Last 4 of his 52 fights.

    3 lbs, meh thats close enough. :D
     
  11. New

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    This is true, and Ricardo Lopez was almost knocked out.
     
  12. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    No, it just means beating the best fighters before moving up. Not literally beating every fighter within the division. Common sense please.
     
  13. New

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    Barrera was not exposed by Pacquiao in anyway, and didn't you see the punches that Barrera landed on Hamed during the first and fouth rounds?
    Had it been Barrera's second fight at Featherweight and the fight was over there (in the first or in the fourth). Come on.
     
  14. kg0208

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    He was dropped at 105, not 108.

    You don't even know what you're talking about :deal
     
  15. kg0208

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    Oh ok.....so what you're saying is, Hamed is penalized for losing to Barrera because it was Barrrera's first fight at 126 and he beat Hamed.

    But Barrera isn't penalized in your eyes for getting KO'd by Pacquiao in his first fight at 126 and on a few weeks notice at that?

    Like I said, you're logic is lacking.

    On top of this, and this may boggle your mind, perhaps those punches Barrera landed didn't stop Hamed because, oh I don't know, he has NEVER been stopped? Hamed always had a good chin, but horrible balance.