Fighters that took Great Pleasure in their Victories.

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  1. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What fights do you recall that the victor took beating on his opponent to another level.

    The fights I can recall were the winner got great pleasure and joy in defeating the other guy. Off the top off my head they are -

    JC Chavez Vs Haugen - He literally carried Haugen so he could hurt him for as many rounds as he could.

    Oscar De La Hoya vs Fernado Vargas. - He wanted it bad, and I had never seen that sort of viciousness from Oscar or pleasure from his win.

    Duran Vs Leonard 1 - Duran was seething from the opening bell, his antics after the fight were off the charts, everything he hated in the world was wrapped up in the visage of Sugar Ray across the ring from him. Pure rage, and he enjoyed hitting Leonard all night long.


    Any others come to mind?
     
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Johnson Jeffries is a given.
    Qawi Saad 2 ..Qawi seemed to enjoy giving a beating to Saad for whatever reason.
    Tyson Biggs
    Norton Quarry
    Off the top of my head
     
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  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali taunting Terrell and Patterson mercilessly in their fights while punishing them with punches. He certainly seem to take great pleasure in carrying them so that he could inflict more pain and anguish on them physically and verbally. Ali could be a nasty piece of work at times.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought Oscar de la Hoya also relished the beating he put on JC Chavez the first time.

    And Larry Holmes was absolutely gleeful in how he boxed Ray Mercer’s ears off — not so much sadistic pleasure in damaging him but joy at showing he still had it and could toy with this young brute.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Chavez-Camacho was even more sadistic than Chavez-Haugen. He really hated Camacho. Haugen only pissed him off. Camacho took the beating of his life.

    Griffith-Paret III... nuff said.

    Duran-Lampkin... Duran seemed at time to be a sociopath.

    Norton-Quarry... Some folks thought it wise to inform Ken that Jerry didn't much care for Black Folk. Jerry had a bad back and couldn't train much. That's what we call a bad combo.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Tony Thompson
    James Toney
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I read that it was more a case that Quarry and Slayton.. Norton's trainer were friends that went back a ways and Norton was very insecure about it. Not saying it couldn't be the former though
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Wow. I now remember hearing that also.

    Norton was loaded for bear and Jerry was soft and doped up.
     
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    Dwight Qawi-Leon Spinks
    Mike Tyson-Tyrell Biggs
     
  10. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    Jack Johnson and Ali showed signs of sadism, especially when johnson was going up against a white man
     
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    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kovalev vs Pascal
     
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  12. The Senator

    The Senator Active Member Full Member

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    While I certainly agree with the overarching point here, I've read some stuff that suggests that he wasn't nearly as merciless with Patterson as it would seem on the surface. Take that as you will, there's always multiple sides to the story, but I think the interview here is somewhat convincing.

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    Q: So it was a fight that shouldn’t have been, at least not at that moment.

    A: Exactly. Ali went into his act, calling Patterson an Uncle Tom, The Rabbit, White America -- all those things. And those comments were not lost to anyone at ringside. But it quickly became apparent that Patterson was injured. Silvani and Buster Watson, another of Patterson's trainers, were trying to pop his back into place between rounds. As the fight progressed, Floyd became less mobile and it was clear that he was in a lot of pain. This was especially clear to Ali, who expected the referee to stop the fight.

    I found a fascinating interview with Ali that Howard Cosell conducted shortly after the fight, in which Ali explained what was going on. He knew that Floyd was hurt, and to his way of thinking, it would bring him no pride to injure a man who was already hurt. So he essentially backed off, waiting for the fight to be stopped. But the ref let it go on. Patterson was perplexed. Floyd said later that he'd never been hit with such soft punches."

    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/37158310
     
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  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Gonzalez v Snipes
     
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    If a boxer continually referred to you as a skunk,a ****** ,and a ****,refused to shake your hand before the fight ,in the ring ,and after the fight I think you have sowed whatever you reap!
     
  15. Jake Speed

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    Greg Haugen v Ray Mancini. There was bad blood between them in the build-up and they apparently had a personal wager on the outcome (or something). Haugen also hated the fact that Mancini was getting more attention than him. Anyway, once the fight started it was very obvious that Ray was completely and hopelessly shot. He threw pitty pat arm punches that were so slow he might as well have been underwater, was exhausted after a couple of rounds, and couldn't seem to block or slip anything that came his way from Haugen. Haugen's glee was palpable. He knew very quickly that Mancini posed no threat to him and seemed to enjoy every second of the beating he dished out.
     
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