Fighters that were robbed more than 1 time

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  1. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez got robbed against Norwood, John and at least once (maybe even twice) against Pacquaio. His debut “loss” sounds like a robbery too.

    Whitaker was robbed at least against Chavez and Ramirez.

    Glen Johnson had a few I recall, Luis Rodriguez twice (maybe even three times) against Emile Griffith.

    I felt GGG won both Canelo fights clearly. Lara I felt beat Canelo clearly too and got a raw deal against Williams.
     
  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    He got robbed.
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not on my card...and not on the Judges! I am not a fan of either guy but feel they got it right. Either way I think both were close and have no problem with someone who feels G (or Canelo) edged them. I find them like JMM vs PAC...I feel JMM edged call 3 but it didn’t swing his way. Close and maybe controversial but not a robbery for me.
     
  4. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Weaver against Michael Dokes, twice.
     
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  5. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan v Kotelnik was an extremely clear win for Khan, not even disputable. In fact you'd have an easier time arguing that Khan was robbed if it wasnt 12-0 in his favour it was that clear.
     
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  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I think 'robbery' is overused in boxing and is being overused in some of the posts here.

    I spent a couple of hours this week scoring De La Hoya-Trinidad and De La Hoya-Whitaker (something I will not be doing again for either fight!).

    I had Trinidad winning by 1 round and De La Hoya beating Whitaker by three rounds. Both fights were close, difficult to score and inconclusive in that no fighter truly dominated. But neither fight can legitimately be called a robbery.

    I felt De La Hoya comfortably won in the end against Whitaker but there are people saying Whitaker got robbed. The DLH-Trinidad fight was closer in my opinion and any result (win for DLH, a draw or the win for Tito) would have been a fair and honest one. Yet you get people saying De La Hoya got robbed in that one. If 'robbery' means 'corrupt decision making', then robberies are much rarer than is often made out. If 'robbery' means 'bad decision making', then we're frequently talking about how our own scorecards didn't match the official verdict. But in super close fights that legitimately could go either way, using the term 'robbery' is unjustified.
     
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  8. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Augustus got robbed all the time.


    Holyfield got robbed against moorer(by the scoring of the second round, haven't seen another fight where they scored a round with a KD 10 10 regardless of who was winning it)
    I also strongly feel that one of the 2 of the Ruiz fights were scored wrong and both fighters got bad decisions in that trilog. Similar to how Morales Barrera 1 and 2 were bo both scored controversially.

    He also CLEARLY won the valuev fight.



    Hasim rahman got robbed twice vs tua and against Holyfield who butted him on purpose.
    I think he also deserved the toney fight although I have to rewatch it, I remember being shocked at toneys condition and also disagreeing with the draw.




    Toney imo deserved atleast one of the griffin fights and the Peter fight.

    I forgot who I scored the Rahman and Johnson fights and McCallum rematch for.



    Hopkins deserved both(but especially the first) Taylor fights, the first Pascal fight and the Calzaghe fights(clean effective punching, Calzaghes punches in that fight were neither clean nor effective, they weren't even punches. Calzaghe couldn't stop Hopkins if they tied his hands behind his back so however bad Hopkins looked in that fight, 1 punch a round imo is worth more than 20 slaps because the punch is actually dangerous ).
     
  9. Shempz

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    John McDermott.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jimmy Young vs Ali and Norton
     
  11. BCS8

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    Golovkin got stiffed in the Canelo fights.
     
  12. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah Khan beat Kotelnik easez was an absolute schooling. Never seen anyone say otherwise, the Alexander one was a robbery but Kotelnik was fortunate to get the decision v Chino as well.
     
  13. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would have won in the Ukraine, Kotelnik never landed a punch.
     
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  14. ronnyrains

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    Ali had at least a half dozen fights that can be considerd robbery, Frazier II and III and you cannot hold and make faces to the crowd a dozen times every round, its in the rulebook, Mills Lane would have had the gumption to "run 'em" DQ!
    I do not like the Angelo Dundee farce with the Gloves trick vs Henry Cooper.
    Norton bouts, Doug Jones, Jimmy Young etc.

    Ali only beat 32 Ranked top ten fighter's w/20 Knockouts! thats only about 25 more than average great Champion (Frazier had 10!) In any division.

    Scott LeDoux the "Fighting Frenchman" was robbed a few times,
     
  15. scartissue

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    Ronny, Frazier II was just a good, close fight. Not only unanimous by the officials but by all the wire services and magazines. Even Ring and their older writers who hated Ali had it for Ali. Frazier III was stopped by frazier's own corner, so nothing to argue about there. The Angelo Dundee 'trick' only gleaned about 11 more seconds, not the 10-15 minutes myth that was propagated over the years. Regarding Clay-Jones, I had Ali up 5-4-1 on the NY scoring. Close, but no robbery. As for the Jimmy Young fight, to tell you the truth, I haven't watched it since 1976 and really have a hard time sitting down to watch it as I remember the boredom back then. But I will keep an open mind on that one. The Norton bouts - I agreed with all three decisions. I had #1 7-5 Norton, #2 7-3 Ali and #3 very closely for Ali, but it has been a long time since I have seen this one and should really sit down with pencil and paper. As for the Scott Ledoux robberies, for some reason I missed the Johnny Boudreax bout way back when. Heard it to be a robbery but would like to see it again if it's out there. His other very close controversials were with Ken Norton and Ron Lyle. I scored the Norton fight a draw and the Lyle fight for Scott by one point. So close bouts that Scott could claim robbery, but close nonetheless. Anyways, that's my take on these.