Fighters That Would Probably Stop Marciano?

Foreman said of Frazier: “That was his famous left hook?”

“Golovkin definitely has power,” said Lemieux to esnewsreporting. “Stevens wouldn’t be like that on the floor if Golovkin didn’t have power. Stevens talks a lot, but is definitely a strong fighter.“

So what, for every 30 people that say his power is otherworldly, 1 or 2 find it overrated? Don’t see how the outliers can turn the tides on this point.

 

Don't sleep too long or you'll miss it.

 

They took it extremely seriously after his excellent effort vs Holyfield.

After he knocked cold the reigning lineal world champ they took it beyond seriously

 

Well that’s one way of looking at it. Another way to look at it is what happened next? Foreman fought Schulz, a rematch was ordered and he threw the title away and went on tour with his “linear” claim defending against Grimsby etc..

How serious did the actual contenders queuing up for a crack at the title take George? They all thought Schulz or Grimsby were more worthy than they were?

But you are entitled to your opinion. I remember how it was to me, and you remember how it was to you.

 

I'm not remembering how it was for me or you, i was remembering how it WAS.

The fact of the matter is that, as i posted, the experts took Foremans comeback extremely seriously after his showing vs Holyfield. They then took it even more seriously when he knocked cold the lineal champion.

This is the way it was, not the way you or i remember it. It's a factual point.

 

Why do so many of his top opponents report that his power is overhyped? Canelo? Jacobs? Brook? Stevens? Murray? Are all of these men lying?? Why should we blindly embrace and extrapolate from his sparring partners' quotes while ignoring theirs?

BTW, Stevens was on the floor in the second round. If Golovkin hits harder than one of the hardest hitting heavyweights in the world, why did it take him 6 rounds and hundreds of landed punches later to end the fight against a hurt Curtis Stevens? What's more meaningful here, the funny gif-worthy expression on Stevens' face in the second round, or the hundreds of punches he withstood during the remainder of the fight?

 

Lyle lost.

 

Did Cooper give us a blueprint for beating Ali ?

 

“Put Marciano on his @ss”

Mmm, you can taste the hate.

 

Foreman called Marciano one of the GOAT along with Louis and Johnson

 

I agree with Tyson icing him but I think he'd run Ali through the ringer even in a losing effort

 

He'd probably do better vs Holmes than most think

 

Honestly? Perhaps some kind of survivor bias. Golovkin didn’t send me to the hospital or anything, so it wasn’t as bad as they said. Perhaps adrenaline overcame them.

Why do so many of his opponents refer to his big power if he didn’t actually possess it?

Albert Wesphal, who suffered perhaps the most brutal KO at the hands of Sonny Liston, said in the post fight interview that the punch that sent him into the shadow realm wasn’t very hard.

Can you show me undeniable proof that no MW can survive one or two rounds with a hard punching HW?
No you cannot, because any noob boxing historian knows that the data doesn’t point to that outcome. So the point you are making doesn’t survive extremely basic scrutiny.

 

Were they formidable heavyweights compared to the breed that came decades later? That is the question. Would either of those dudes, in the form they existed in the mid 50's, have made a dent in the past 30 years? That is kinda the question here.

 

I dunno. When a more athletic, bigger, more complete hooker came along, Ali got his first L.