Fighters That Would Probably Stop Marciano?

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So now I know you know how to copy and paste.

How, in what way shape or form does this disprove Foremans comeback was not really being taken seriously within boxing circles?

What I will say was being taken seriously was the money he generated. George was very marketable and his photo helped sell magazines. But Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Ruddock all those guys prayed George would fight them. Larry Holmes too. Everyone hoped they were on George’s shopping list. But because George was only there to take things as far as he could without losing they all knew George would not sign.

Heck, George even admitted as much. A generation later people think he was the real deal. He wasn’t. He was a marketable story with a happy ending.

 

The boxing sphere took Foreman's comeback seriously after his valiant performance against Holafeld. Boxing mags don't put 'fakes' on there covers

 

Are you crazy?
Have you seen the Ishida KO?

Golovkin is a Foreman type of hitter with very good boxing skills. Hell wear you down before he even has a chance to land that one flush punch to put you completely out. Tyson had way more lights out KOs than Foreman, doesn’t mean he hit harder, it’s a stylistic thing.

I’m pretty sure Jackson gave Golovkin the nod on this. And if not on power, then as a fighter.

Julian Jackson’s son is one of the guys who says Golovkin hits harder than heavyweights.

And Jackson was there at the camp the whole time.

Not better than Kovalev? He knocked Kovalev down in sparring with a body shot. And if you read between the lines, he owned him.

Your pure dismissal of the piling evidence of testimonials and other sources that indicate that Golovkin has very very special power, makes it hard to take your assessment seriously. You can’t throw 20-50 people in the actual boxing communities testimonial aside because it doesn’t fit your narrative. If you can’t build on your narrative without doing such, then you’ve done a lazy job.

 

Like I said. They took his marketable story seriously. Especially after that point. The boxing fraternity saw it for what it was. A marketable sideline. There was even talk of a veterans league because there was such a comeback explosion among retired fighters.

 

Tshabalala has a good chance.

Courage not Ginger... well, maybe both.

 

Not zero chance, Seamus, but close to it.

Just too much difference in the mental toughness between these two men.

 

Have we ever seen Rocky weather an early storm from a guy as powerful as prime Frank? He was able to pull it together against old and diminutive Walcott and again against old and more diminutive Moore... probably a taller order against a young and immaculately fit Bruno.

 

Probabilities of beating Marciano (both men at prime and no major errors):


Liston: 50/50


Foreman: 80/20

Lewis: 75/25

W.Kltschko: 50/50

V Klitscho: 80/20

Ali: 80/20

Dempsey: 30/70






Any More?


Joshua: Too early to say, but when he reaches his best, would probably be favoured.

Wilder: Too early to say, but I suspect Marciano probably stops him.


Holmes: 50/50

 

What is a face forward fighter?

That makes about as much sense as a flat Earth.

Can someone tell me something?
If Rocky was really this clumsy hands low face first fighter, why does he sound hardly impaired after his retirement? Does that add up to anyone here?

How come a hands low clumsy low balanced fighter never got knocked out in his pro career?

Did Rocky leave his hands any lower than Louis? If anything he sometimes held his hands wide to bait the straight punches.

Here is a little nugget of undeniable truth, if I may:
Not one fighter in the history of the sport ever made it to the top without the basic understandings and employment of boxing technique and fundamental basics.

If anyone tells you otherwise they are painting an oversimplified colorful story to over dramatize it. And upon further investigation you will always realize that those simple descriptions are wrong.

Also, the convo around Rocky is always biased. There are always posts like this with the general theme of: “Look Rocky was great and all, but he had no balance, low hands, and ate punches for fun.” It’s unescapable.

Yet if Ali and Foreman are mentioned, you don’t hear these things. Even from the supposed “Foreman Haters,” that are attempted to being outed on this ironic thread.

How come in every Ali thread there isn’t 2-3 people going: Look he was great, but he ate punches for fun, had low hands, and basically had no defense. Some people probably have and got run off the forum. But if the same is said about Rocky, the forum pulls them up a chair, and serves them a steak tartar.

 

Could happen.

But I think the early going generates some adversity for both guys, and if the going gets rough, Bruno is much more likely to fold than Marciano.

 

Thank heavens Louis destroyed three SHWs.

Oh, the headache that saved us...

 

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Rocky was in deep trouble twice in the early goings against ancient and small opponents. Bruno was more a frontrunner and actually did well in the early goings against the men who KO'd him. Bruno will have the early lead... and I would stake my wig on it that he would taste more power than he ever did in his actual career. And just don't think his face could handle that... and probably not his chin either.

 

Ali was dropped by Cooper and Banks.

If you’re going to say that Walcott was ancient and small, then Banks was a never-was.

Bruno KO Ali?
No

So why Bruno KO Marciano?
Your supporting reasoning doesn’t survive scrutiny when compared to the greatest HW of all time.