Fighters who are criminally underated yet were ****ing great fighters......

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by smitty78, May 19, 2012.


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  1. smitty78

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    and absolute monsters head 2 head.

    these guys are unfairly underated today by the un educated.


    Jack Dempsey
    Felix Trinidad
    Kostya Tszyu
    Jeff Fenech
    Laurant Dauthille
    Laszlo Papp
    Les Darcy
    John L. Sullivan
    Michael Moorer
    Tiger Flowers
    Luis Rodriguez
    Willie Pastrano
    Dave Sands
    Esteban de Jesus
    Ken Buchanan
    Ismael Laguna
    Max Schmeling
    Danny Green
    Mosley at lightweight
    Vicente Saldivar
    Battling Nelson
    Roy Jones
    Fritzie Zivic
    Joe Frazier
    Billy Conn
    Antonio Cervantes
    Jimmy Mclarnin
    Ingemar Johannson
    Samart Payakaroon
    Vernon Forrest


    Who else do you have? Discusss.
     
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  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Snuck in Danny Green I see...nice.
     
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  3. smitty78

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    Not the smartest fighter but was a ****ing beast when he wasnt overconfident. Huge puncher at light heavy and super middle, and very sharp puncher. Hard to get past that long jab. Unfortunately couldn't get the right fights for his legacy.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Bud Taylor
    Billy Petrolle
    Owen Moran
    Joe Bowker
    and about another 500.
     
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  5. smitty78

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    Can you elaborate on these guys. I never heard of them before.
     
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  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most of those are rated fine or overrated
     
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  7. smitty78

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    Which ones do u think are overated?
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Tszyu is well overrated.
     
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  9. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    quite right McVey.

    I always was curious about Joe Bowker, he was the epitome of a fighter, a proper Hardman of his time. Both a time and a Manly trait that has died with this softer age - No More HARDMEN, all gone.

    it's really too bad we can't see footage of some of these guys, but Bowker and his ilk were made for fighting, fit for ANY fighter in history in their respective weight classes and like you say, there were indeed hundreds of them!
     
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  10. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alex Lafferty
    Len Harvey
    Ernie Roderick - dream match, Roderick vs Zivic world welterweight title!
    JOCK MCAVOY
    Bert Gilroy
    Arthur Danahar
    Jim Brady

    some from the UK, and a good few yet!
     
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  11. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont know about under-rated, but Ezzard Charles in a head to head fight would be hell for anyone under super heavy, watch a Lennox Lewis KO reel, then watch an Ezzard Charles reel, they had the best left right combination punching i have seen at 175+
     
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  12. smitty78

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    Tszyu is 1 of the most underated. A ****ing machine, who is technically better than most fighters. He doesn't look as athletic as some guys which is maybe why he is so underated. His opposition also underated massively.
     
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  13. smitty78

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    I think he and Billy Conn are the 2 greatest lite heavys who ever lived. Charles gets these props more often than not and Conn doesn't. What Conn did in his first fight with Louis is one of the single greatest performances in ring history even though he lost. Simply ****ing amazing
     
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  14. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right. The guy fought everyone there was to fight and almost always overwhelmed them
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    The guy was dropped by Hurtado and stopped by Vince Phillips. Judah is his best win. Sharmba Mitchell, shot Chavez, blah blah blah.

    Yeah, he was damn good and could really crack with the right when he lined his man up, but his opposition was above average and his reign pretty forgettable IMO.
     
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