Fighters Who Are "Overrated" Due To A Handful Of/Singular Win

The king of them all...Corrie Sanders. I have actually seen this guy picked in fantasy matchups over great fighters. What a Joke.

 

O I forgot one...1990s george foreman. Very overrated. Here is a guy who got beat up and outboxed by gooftroopers Axel Shulz, Alex Stewart, and got shutout by glass chinned Tommy Morrison. Yet many here pick a 1990s foreman to knockout Tyson, Dempsey, Frazier, Marciano. How pathetic. If not for his heroic, but lucky knockout over moorer, he would have been considered nothing more than a trialhorse of the 1990s. I almost forgot...He also struggled tremendously with Crawford Grimsley, Lou Saverese, and shannon briggs. 1990s foreman was old, fat, slow as molasses, and could be outboxed by B level fighters.

 

So your saying Mike Tyson can't come into that fat sack of **** and take his head off? Did Alex Stewart turn foreman's face into meat by boxing him? No he didn''t. Btw, how long did Alex Stewart last against Tyson?

 

I just opened the 4th edition of the boxing register. Outside of Michael Moorer(who was champion)...1990s George did not defeat one ring magazine top 10 contender. Yet people claim this old fart could knock out hall of fame ATG's.

 

Obvious choice is Douglas... He beat Tyson so everybody thought he would whoop holyfield.

 

I am not in entire disagreement here. Foreman carefully chose his opponents, and a few were capable of making him look bad. I don't pick old George to beat all time greats, and don't subscribe to young George defeating Tyson. I even give young Frazier a chance against young Foreman, if he fought Foreman the way he did in the rematch.

However, George was a bigger deal after a loss than after his win over Moorer. I followed boxing at this time, and Foreman was huge after his loss to Holyfield. I remember how shocked so many were that the fight was even competitive.

Foreman did not get "lucky" against Moorer. Foreman was drilling Moorer that whole fight. In fact, the myth of that fight is how one sided it was. I have challenged people to re-score it, and those that I know did in fact re-watch it all said Foreman deserved at least 3 rounds. Foreman clearly won 3 rounds, if not 4, leading up to that on my card. A punch that lands repeatedly scoring a knock out is not luck in my opinion.

What George did in the 90's was commendable. He was 48 years old against Savarese and Briggs. I thought he won both fights. How well do you think 48 year old versions Louis, Marciano, Frazier, or Ali would have done against those versions of Saverese or Briggs?

 

This is going to be blasphemy to some, but I say...

...Shane Mosley.

On his resume, I see 9 major fights.

I see 2 wins (Oscar 1, Margarito).

I see 7 losses (Oscar 2 which I scored to Oscar by 5 points, Forrest 1+2, Winky 1+2, Cotto, Mayweather).

The common view of Mosley is that he "had Oscar's number", and much of his prestige is on account of this. Personally, I scored Oscar-Mosley 1 to Shane by 2, then Oscar-Mosley 2 to Oscar by 5, so I had Oscar 3 points up over the 24 rounds they fought.

For me, Shane was in his prime a very good but limited fighter. His resume is not great because he lost too many big fights, and I do not believe he merits the status he currently enjoys, which seems to be as an equal of guys like Pacquiao, Jones, Hopkins and Mayweather - but for me he is well below that level. I don't think Shane is on the same level as Oscar or Barrera or Morales when it comes to all-time pound-for-pound standing either, I rank him in the same sort of tier as Juan Manuel Marquez, Felix Trinidad and Winky Wright, and only just above guys like Kostya Tszyu, Jose Luis Castillo and Joe Calzaghe.

Overrated on account of the Oscar win("s").

 

Agreed, though was actual and substantial hype regarding him within the promotional circles as far back as the early 90's, starting after he blew out Bert Cooper, reinvigorated after his destructions of Al Cole and Czyz. He had considerable gifts but was missing the dedication and heart to exploit them. But believe me, the one and only time I had decent connections in "the industry" that guy was thought of very highly... but then again, so was Michael Grant.

 

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I have nearly every 1990s Ring Magazine issue..So I have read them. However, he couldn't have been thought "too highly" of if he never managed to crack the top 10 Ring Magazine ratings until 2003.

 

I agree that Tua is overrated. Just mentioned this on another thread, I think James Toney is overrated. Gets a little too much credit for Holyfield (who older and slower was made for Toney). For every Michael Nunn effort there's a Dave Tiberi effort. Got schooled by Jones but of course was drained. Very good fighter, borderline great, not in Jones/ or Hopkins class and it's blasphemous to mention him beating the likes of Hagler.