Fighters who beat multiple top ten ATG types for their weight division

McCall destroyed the prime Lewis an beat the 45 years old Holmes by points.

 

Tyson destroyed Holmes and Spinks.
(Spinks beat the unbeaten Holmes. He must be an ATG.Maybe he didn't beat
20-25 heavyweight bums.But his two Holmes wins and the impressive ko Cooney
win are more than enough.)
What is Holyfield"s ATG win list ? The 42 years old Foreman,42 years old Holmes,
the post-prison Tyson. Spinks' two Holmes wins are better.
Bowe isn't ATG.

 

What other words cun't you say?:huh

 

For instance Johnson beat Fitzsimmons, Jeffries and Langford. At the time of his retirement all 3 would have been in the top ten ATG HW lists. It is not his fault that others came after him.

Ali has stood the test of time but in x amount of years we can't say that will remain he case.

 

Do you think Fitzsimmons might be eligible?

O Brien
Gardner
Sharkey
Choynski
Maher
Corbett

I suppose its difficult classifying the weight divisions with him?

 

Sammy Angott?
Montgomery
Stoltz
Jenkins
Arizmendi
Sarron

 

Harold Johnson beat:
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Jimmy Bivins


(top 10 ATGs at 175, although maybe they were all over the 175pound limit at the time)

 

Nice to see Cuban Linx open the thread. :good

 

At MW Greb beat: Mike Gibbons, Tiger Flowers, Eddie McGoorty, Jeff Smith, Mickey Walker, arguably Mike O'Dowd (depending on which sources you look at), and Leo Houck. All of those guys with the exception of McGoorty are in the HOF and McGoorty should be. All were all time great MWs who were or could have easily been champions.

At LHW Greb beat: Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Gene Tunney, Tommy Loughran, Maxie Rosenbloom, Jimmy Slattery, Kid Norfolk, and Tommy Gibbons. All HOFers and all champions with the exception of Norfolk and Gibbons who could have easily been one.

 

Roy Jones beat Hopkins at MW, Toney at 168, and Hill at LHW. Quite remarkable.

 

Leonard beat Hearns and Duran at WW, Kalule at 154, and Hagler at MW.

 

Ali beat Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Norton
Holyfield beat Tyson, Bowe, Holmes, Foreman and a draw with Lewis.

 

Beau Jack (maybe) as he beat

Henry Armstrong
Bob Montgomery
Sammy Angott
Lew Jenkins
Willie Joyce
Allie Stolz

 

Leonard best Benitez Duran hearns Hagler

Rjj toney and hopkins in their primes

 

A couple from ESB forum's own top 10s:

HW
1. 1675 Muhammad Ali (52)
2. 1375 Joe Louis (23)
3. 638 Rocky Marciano (1)
4. 580 Larry Holmes
5. 488 Lennox Lewis (1)
6. 462 Jack Johnson (1)
7. 318 (tie) George Foreman
7. 318 (tie) Jack Dempsey (2)
9. 233 Mike Tyson
10. 221 Joe Frazier

HOLYFIELD beat 4, 7 & 9
ALI beat 7 & 10
MCCALL beat 4 & 5


LHW
1. 971 Ezzard Charles (30)
2. 652 Archie Moore (4)
3. 557 Gene Tunney (8 )
4. 452 Sam Langford (4)
5. 328 Michael Spinks (1)
6. 288 Bob Foster
7. 181 Harry Greb
8. 148 Billy Conn
9. 140 Tommy Loughran
10. 81 Bob Fitzsimmons

BIVINS beat 1 & 2


WW
1. 1049 Sugar Ray Robinson (41)
2. 524 Sugar Ray Leonard
3. 322 Henry Armstrong
4. 301 Jose Napoles
5. 275 Kid Gavilan
6. 207 Emile Griffith
7. 174 Tommy Hearns
8. 129 Luis Rodriguez
9. 111 Barbados Joe Walcott
10. 87 Mickey Walker

ROBINSON beat 3 & 5