Fighters who became shot seemingly overnight

Concerning Ali v. Holmes, yes Ali was shot.

But didn't he look better in the Berbick fight?

 

A) He was fighting a lesser fighter

And


B) He had stopped taking the meds that gave him so many problems in the interim.

 

Fair points, both.

 

What are you talking about? Ali was shot after Frazier 3, a long time before Holmes. Some would argue he lost his prime skills long even before that.

 

I agree Ali became shot after Manila, where as Mark Kram said, he came as an "am" and left as a "was".

In a rare moment of candor, Ali himself pinpointed Manila as the probable onset of his physical problems attributable to boxing.

By the time of his bout with Holmes, Ali had badly deteriorated, and his abysmal performance was due more to the effect of his taking an erroneously prescribed thyroid medication. Of course, he would have lost anyway, and perhaps it was just as well that Thyrolar sapped his energy; there will always be somewhat of an alibi for that awful night, although the effects of the pills could have been tragic.

I would propose Neon Leon Spinks as a better candidate for becoming shot practically overnight, certainly after the Qawi fight, although before that mediocrity and inconsistency were already his middle names.

 

Yeah, Taylor actually looked decent a few months after Chavez in the rematch with Ramos, and then when he moved up to beat Davis for a 147 lb. title.

He was already slipping, but I thought that was a poor move to put him in there with Norris.

 

Jeff Chandler

 

I do not know, he did not look the like real pre Chavez Taylor in either the Ramos or Davis fights IMO.

 

But was not shot IMO, nor KO's; as he won their comeback of the year reward for his 1981 run.

 

Perhaps more bubble burst than completely shot, but neither Camacho (post Rosario) and Breland (post StarlingI) were ever quite the same again.

Honeyghan was shot post VacaII.

 

Holyfield after Bowe I. And Moorer I. And Bowe III.

 

Anyone mention Chris Byrd in his last fight yet? The one against Geoge right after Povetkin.

 

Julian Jackson, he had a few small blips along the way but nothing his neuclear warheads couldn't handle.. But the night he lost to Gerald McClelland in las vegas, he never ever looked quite the same, he lost once again in the rematch and although he did fight for titles after, he did lose his footing at the highest level .. finally losing to Verno Phillips and Anthony Jones.. His eyesight didn't help much either.. I used to watch him sparr under the watchful eye of Johnny Tocco, he was a monster physically but you vertually had to point him in the direction of his opponent at times, his eye glasses were like the bottom of Beer Bottles.. He once asked me to read the ring magazine ratings to him after training because he couldn't see the type..

 

I need to add John Mugabi and Johnny Bumphus, too..... Both fell apart after their losses to "Hagler & Hatcher." Though, Mugabi came back to win a loust title from Rene Jaquot---Whooppeee... Bumphus just went to hell...atsch

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I still can't believe John Mugabi got blasted in one round by Terry Norris.