Fighters who could have been great with better trainers early in their careers

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Stay Dangerous Full Member

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    My pick would be Paul Williams who suffered from horrible trainers who taught him bad habits. A guy with his height and length should never be fighting on the inside and as recklessly as he did. Had he got with someone like Manny Steward he would have have taught him how to box and fight tall using his jab and how to better set up his power shots. With his stamina and chin and uncanny ability to make 147 with his dimensions he would have become the truth with a guy like Steward had he got with him early.
    Any other fighters with bad trainers who could have been great with better trainers?
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tony Tubbs, Razor Ruddock
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Umm, what?
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it wasn't! Christ
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    What a load of bollocks. :lol:
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! Full Member

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    14 posts in and he's already established himself as a complete Melvin.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    Jersey Joe Walcott immediately springs to mind. I'll try and think of some others, this is a good thread
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    I'd almost see some kind of traceable logic if his point didn't completely destroy itself by saying "oh people overrate it because it was American" and in the same post listing Frank Bruno as one of the champions.

    Not to mention the fact that 90% of Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali's opponents were American, yet that standard clearly doesn't apply to them.
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! Full Member

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    16 posts in and he's already been given the boot. Who's alt was it? Someone permabanned by the looks of it.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    Given that Communists weren't allowed to box until the late '80s and that Kazakhstan wasn't even an independent country up untill '91, you're point is moot.

    And why on earth does it matter? The quality of an opponent has nothing to do with where they're from.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4 Full Member

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    Anthony Mundine

    Possibly Lucas Browne could have been a top heavyweight if he never did MMA and started boxing when he was younger.
     
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  13. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Active Member Full Member

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    Completely agree about Mundine, no offense, his dad was a terrific fighter but a terrible trainer. Mundine Jr had a very enigmatic career.
     
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  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Active Member Full Member

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    A guy like Tony 'Mad Dog' Miller as well, world ranked for years, had a real good career, was still a good fighter when he was an 'old' man and tough as nails but he stuck around with Keith Ellis for so long as trainer.
     
  15. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of aussie fighters when you think about it even when you look at Johnny Lewis, arguably Australia's greatest trainer of all time yet he was more of a fitness type coach than a 'technique and skill' type coach. Lewis was good in the corner on fight nights though.
     
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